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New The Real Kennedy
..program on H tonight - very interesting and ultimately very sad - to see how low the office has been taken by its recent occupants.

Maybe the most interesting revelation in the show - the Bay of Pigs may have saved the world from Armageddon.

While Kennedy was still green and getting his bearings, he manages to allow various experts to convince him to go forward with the Bay of Pigs invasion. Later he's just kicking himself and bitching to Robert - "Why did I allow the experts to convince me to do it? I got here by ingnoring experts."

During the Missle Crisis, almost everyone, including Johnson, were urging a first strike that would likely have led to a nuclear exchange. But Kennedy kept his own counsel - and finally went with his gut, ignoring all the talking heads. An advisor mentions how Kennedy was mentally miles in front of everyone in the room - they were all outclassed by his intelligence and judgement. Fool me once...

Did the bad experience at the Bay give Kennedy the balls to follow his own path?

It's almost impossible to believe that a man like Kennedy, and ones like Nixon and Bush, could occupy the same office. I did get a very slight feeling, however, at the end of this program, that Bush represents the nadir of American politics and we will go up from here, to a renewal of Kennedy's vision - I say this because at the end of this program is a segment in which Germans at the Brandenburg Gate watch a film of Kennedy giving his famous "Let them come to Berlin!" speech. These people - many of them - who had suffered so much in the 20th century from bad leadership - were in tears over an American speaking English. People loved Kennedy because, whatever his faults, he made things possible. When I see him talking to Europeans, I myself get a tear in the eye - a tear of pride - this is my countryman - this optimism, grace, courage - this is what we are.

Bush will visit the UK this week and discover how thoroughly despised he is - and every last American should be embarrassed to have this smirking punk represent us. This is what we are not.

Please God - send us another man.
-drl
Expand Edited by deSitter Nov. 17, 2003, 12:52:23 AM EST
New Nicely said, but may I make a small edit?
Please God - send us another man.


I'd like to edit that to say; "Please God - send us another statesman.

The last thing we need is a(nother) testosterone-fired demigogue (or worse, puppet for a testosterone-fired demigogue) who would qualify as a "man". I want someone with both brains and balls, and the wisdom to know when to use which.
jb4
"There are two ways for you to have lower Prescription-drug costs. One is you could hire Rush Limbaugh's housekeeper ... or you can elect me President."
John Kerry
New Re: speech
This quote comes to mind:

We need a president who's fluent in at least one language. -- Buck Henry

I cringe when W opens his mouth.
Alex

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." - Henry Kissinger
New DRL you are a man of great passion !!!

and I know just where you are coming from.

I recall a night in my apartment back in HK prior to Gulf-2, lamenting aloud at what a certain 'son of a Texas whore' was about to unleash on the world and the harm he was about to do to people I used to know as friends (my many American associates).

I believe that all that was obvious to the open eyed bck then, has happened.

Mubarak's prediction of 100 Osama Bin Laden's was not the public word of any idiot.

Kennedy had his faults (as they all do) but man did he stand tall, not only to Americans but to the world. Outside the US we nearly all loved the man and US gained greatly from that - the black days began with Nixon - the anti-Kennedy.

Cheers

Doug M



     The Real Kennedy - (deSitter) - (3)
         Nicely said, but may I make a small edit? - (jb4)
         Re: speech - (a6l6e6x)
         DRL you are a man of great passion !!! - (dmarker)

I've spent an unreasonable amount of thought on the line Janet sings in Rocky Horror: "His lust is so sincere". Now, on the surface, that's a big "DUH!" because that's the nature of lust. But wait: Brad has earlier sung about how hot he is for her, and it's pretty clear he's just being conventional. Brad's lust is not sincere.

Now, I could swill green mead and gnaw raw meat with sincere lust. As for kimchee and lutefisk, well, those would be just for effect. And if I'm just going for effect, I might as well wear a tie. And pants.


-- mhuber
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