Its a miracle!!!

Post #125,348 by bepatient 11/12/03 1:20:59 PM Reply	Its a miracle!!! [link\|http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/11/12/toddler.revived.ap/index.html\|I'll sue!!] (maybe) The girl was found floating face down in her family's swimming pool Friday morning and was rushed to the hospital, where doctors pronounced her dead. About 40 minutes later, police Detective Mike Kendrick was conducting a routine investigation into the death when he noticed the child's chest was moving. He summoned doctors, who were able to revive her. Forgive me...but you bring your drowned toddler to the hospital, where they confirm she was drowned...and a miracle happens. Brian Oxman, a lawyer for the girl's family, said relatives had not decided whether to sue the hospital. Had to be in there...not how greatful they are to have their child alive, or how in disbelief they are to have such fortunate test results. Nope. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #125,354 by jake123 11/12/03 1:41:57 PM Reply	One possible interpretation just from what you wrote... the girl has massive brain damage. If something had been done in the intervening forty minutes, perhaps a large amount of that brain damage may have been averted. Of course, I don't actually know the score on that one... but that fits your description of the situation and a strong urge on the part of the family to sue the doc who pronounced her dead, which led to a large chunk of time when there was no treatment leading to potentially very negative results for the baby. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #125,363 by jbrabeck 11/12/03 2:19:55 PM Reply	Not Quite The "massive brain damage" would be a result of lack of oxygen to the brain. If her chest was moving, she was breathing, therefore brain was receiving oxygen. Now she may have some brain damage. Doesn't say how long she was without oxygen. Also doesn't say what other injuries she may have or that might have been aggrevated by lack of prompt treatment. "All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of the Lord stands forever." 1 Peter 1:24-25
Post #125,365 by mmoffitt 11/12/03 2:25:30 PM Reply	And kids can handle low 02 a lot better than adults. bcnu, Mikem Java, Junk. Both start with a "J", both have four letters. Coincidence? I think not.
Post #125,485 by ben_tilly 11/13/03 10:55:25 AM Reply	Sounds like incompetence on the part of the doctors If I try to cover my incompetence by proclaiming, "It's a miracle!" I wouldn't expect anyone with brains to accept it, why should those doctors expect better? Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #125,491 by bepatient 11/13/03 11:22:19 AM Reply	Agree that from the article its difficult.. ...to determine the course of events. I made the miracle proclamation...more on the fact that the timeline appears to give at a minimum about 30 minutes before treatment even started, at which point (unless the water was very cold) most doctors would start from the point of "its probably too late". Not excusing doctors, I just found it a telling sign of the current mindset that the 'family representative' didn't say anything about how hopeful they were, or glad they were that their child seemed to be recovering...simply going right to "we're deciding if we should sue". And having a pool and small children...I am probably less prone to forgive the negligence that put the child there in the first place. So I have, perhaps, a slight distortion in my POV where that is concerned. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]

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