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New Outfits like that are quite accustomed . .
. . to adopting software aids created by participants for general distribution among other participants. Often it's distributed just for egobo, but sometimes there's money involved, and sometimes there have been bad feelings and litigation because the contributor didn't expect them to be charging money for it.

Try to get a clear idea which way they want to go before letting them get their hands on it. Feel them out, and if they aren't going to pay for it, that's OK for it "as is", just make sure you have a written agreement they won't charge anyone else for it either.

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New Well, if free is OK then you CAN GPL it... :-)
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New That's what I was thinking, actually.
Write up a simple app, sell them the right to sell it, but retain rights to release it under the GPL.

Win-win. :D
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New Wouldn't the best order to do that in, be to GPL it FIRST?
Thane in-thones:
Write up a simple app, sell them the right to sell it, but retain rights to release it under the GPL.
What's with this "retain rights" shit; how you gonna do that, exactly?

I'll tell you one way: Release under the GPL, then they can use it under the GPL just like anybody else. Including "selling" it (which the GPL doesn't forbid), as long as they include the source. (And if it's a sheet of Excel macros, the "binary" IS "the source", innit?)

Presenting them with the fait accompli of a GPLed application simplifies your deal in two ways: First, no figuring out a separate legal formulation of that "retain rights" shtuff for them to sign off on, since that's already done; second, it won't be up to *you* to explain to them what this mysterious Gee-pee-ell thingy is that you want to "retain rights" for; since it's already released under that, its terms are what govern their usage, so it's up to *them* to figure it out for *their own* sake.

IANAL, YMMV, etc, but [Edit - added:] as long as you're sure you *do* want to release under the GPL, then releasing under the GPL first and negotiating other alternatives later sure seems the simplest and smartest way to me. That way, *they* will have an incentive -- it's free, as in "free beer" -- to find out if *they* want to try to acquire some alternative license from you; not the more complicated other way around as your "retain rights to release it the GPL" idea would mean.


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Expand Edited by CRConrad Oct. 23, 2003, 05:39:19 PM EDT
New Let's talk tech, for a moment
Write up a simple app, sell them the right to sell it, but retain rights to release it under the GPL.

Kewl!

but you'll probably run into problems if you try to do this with a VBA macro (IANAL, but you know how Micros~1 feels about that "viral" GPL, now don't you...?)

so get a copy of Borland's Delphi or C++ builder (the Professional version, that contains the Interbase database engine), or, maybe better, Kylix (so you can distribute a Windoze and Linix version), and develop it there.

Again, IANAL....
jb4
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     Selling a product - (inthane-chan) - (14)
         Start with an NDA - (Arkadiy)
         Using VB and Access - (orion)
         Do it formally. - (FuManChu)
         Other than NDA - (jbrabeck)
         Had the same idea when I was on Weight Watchers.... - (gdaustin) - (2)
             More... - (gdaustin)
             Hey Glen,... - (jb4)
         Don't talk - (kmself)
         Have them sign a waiver of rights to that particular idea - (boxley)
         Outfits like that are quite accustomed . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
             Well, if free is OK then you CAN GPL it... :-) -NT - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                 That's what I was thinking, actually. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                     Wouldn't the best order to do that in, be to GPL it FIRST? - (CRConrad)
                     Let's talk tech, for a moment - (jb4)

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