Not an answer then, but a plan of attack :)

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Post #122,070 by FuManChu 10/20/03 5:03:37 PM Reply	Not an answer then, but a plan of attack :) Taking up the mantra: "design first, then optimize" 1. I'm supposing here, but I think the HTTP connection really means "OCX/ActiveX/whateverXitistoday used as a web service in IIS and .NET". Get them to spell this out in a design meeting. 2. Suggest that this decision be left for later, when several competing strategies can be tested. Abstract the communication process. 3. When it comes time to finalize the comms, remind them: The code needs to be very, very fast, and the trade-off is memory for speed...One of those few applications that really does need to be extremely efficient. 4. Show the native socket app blowing .NET out of the water. 5. Reintegrate the abstracted comms code for a final speed improvement. Ooh, I can work this Team Thinking, can't I? >:) "There's a set of rules that anything that was in the world when you were born is normal and natural. Anything invented between when you were 15 and 35 is new and revolutionary and exciting, and you'll probably get a career in it. Anything invented after you're 35 is against the natural order of things." Douglas Adams
Post #122,072 by admin 10/20/03 5:05:20 PM Reply	Complicated political situation. That might work, given different personalities. :-) Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #122,089 by tuberculosis 10/20/03 6:56:01 PM Reply	You mean you're not king? Dude, just lay down the law. Surely the other hacks will bow down before the admin-guy? In Java, you can't escape the creepy feeling. --James Gosling

Communication between two servers. - (admin) - (39) - Oct. 20, 2003, 09:23:06 AM EDT

SOAP - (ChrisR) - (8) - Oct. 20, 2003, 10:39:16 AM EDT

Right, that's what I'm trying to avoid. - (admin) - (1) - Oct. 20, 2003, 10:44:22 AM EDT

Welcome to my life -NT - (drewk) - Oct. 20, 2003, 10:47:47 AM EDT

Stupid Object Asskiss Protocol -NT - (tuberculosis) - (5) - Oct. 20, 2003, 02:13:48 PM EDT

SOAP is one those decent ideas... - (ChrisR) - (4) - Oct. 20, 2003, 04:13:34 PM EDT

A decent idea? - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Oct. 20, 2003, 04:49:41 PM EDT

Valid complaint - (ChrisR) - Oct. 20, 2003, 05:09:00 PM EDT

In fairness, - (Arkadiy) - Oct. 20, 2003, 07:00:33 PM EDT

No, she's a dog - (tuberculosis) - Oct. 20, 2003, 06:52:00 PM EDT

Quick alphabet soup translation: - (jb4) - (2) - Oct. 20, 2003, 10:49:48 AM EDT

Java Messaging Service - (admin) - (1) - Oct. 20, 2003, 10:51:21 AM EDT

Danke -NT - (jb4) - Oct. 20, 2003, 12:00:07 PM EDT

roll own xinted service? - (deSitter) - Oct. 20, 2003, 10:58:24 AM EDT

Just remember--anything manual can be automated - (FuManChu) - (5) - Oct. 20, 2003, 11:05:20 AM EDT

Well, that's what I meant. - (admin) - Oct. 20, 2003, 11:09:08 AM EDT

I lean towards sockets as well - (tjsinclair) - (3) - Oct. 20, 2003, 12:00:35 PM EDT

Remember there's C++ on the other end. - (admin) - (2) - Oct. 20, 2003, 12:05:20 PM EDT

Name one: - (folkert) - (1) - Oct. 20, 2003, 01:21:06 PM EDT

I'm guessing the answer will be: - (admin) - Oct. 20, 2003, 02:06:56 PM EDT

4. CORBA connection but same objection as JMS Go with socket -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 20, 2003, 11:43:09 AM EDT

My Gut reaction tells me: - (folkert) - (9) - Oct. 20, 2003, 12:01:46 PM EDT

We have plenty of socket servers here already. - (admin) - (8) - Oct. 20, 2003, 12:06:09 PM EDT

Sockets can stream, http does not, its connectionless - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 20, 2003, 12:24:11 PM EDT

HTTP 1.1 supports pipelining, FYI. -NT - (admin) - Oct. 20, 2003, 12:46:07 PM EDT

YALOP - (folkert) - (1) - Oct. 20, 2003, 01:12:26 PM EDT

Agreed - (deSitter) - Oct. 20, 2003, 01:19:38 PM EDT

Why not HTTP? - (tablizer) - (3) - Oct. 24, 2003, 11:06:10 PM EDT

Read the problem description. - (admin) - (2) - Oct. 25, 2003, 12:19:08 AM EDT

You didn't qualify "too much overhead" - (tablizer) - (1) - Oct. 25, 2003, 05:13:44 PM EDT

Packet overhead doesn't matter. - (admin) - Oct. 25, 2003, 07:36:35 PM EDT

DECNet Mailboxes. - (pwhysall) - (2) - Oct. 20, 2003, 01:12:30 PM EDT

AHHH! NO!!! - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 20, 2003, 01:16:29 PM EDT

Silence, heretic. - (pwhysall) - Oct. 20, 2003, 01:23:32 PM EDT

Socket to me - (tuberculosis) - (4) - Oct. 20, 2003, 02:25:08 PM EDT

Why the daemon: - (admin) - (3) - Oct. 20, 2003, 02:56:20 PM EDT

Not an answer then, but a plan of attack :) - (FuManChu) - (2) - Oct. 20, 2003, 05:03:37 PM EDT

Complicated political situation. - (admin) - (1) - Oct. 20, 2003, 05:05:20 PM EDT

You mean you're not king? - (tuberculosis) - Oct. 20, 2003, 06:56:01 PM EDT

Tuxedo/Java Jolt? - (gdaustin) - Oct. 20, 2003, 03:11:19 PM EDT

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