Post #121,949
10/20/03 9:49:48 AM
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Had to double-check who wrote that
That almost sounded like Ashton, except with grammar. Anti-drug zealots should spend a week with someone in real pain, see the effect of their demonizing.
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Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
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Post #121,957
10/20/03 10:33:04 AM
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Re: Had to double-check who wrote that
Yeah, God forbid it should be your Mom.
-drl
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Post #121,959
10/20/03 10:33:36 AM
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AMEN, Bruther!
jb4
"There are two ways for you to have lower Prescription-drug costs. One is you could hire Rush Limbaugh's housekeeper ... or you can elect me President."
John Kerry
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Post #122,032
10/20/03 2:04:53 PM
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I'll take that as a compliment
since I usually consider Ashton an example of brilliance mired in uncomprehensively poor writing.
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Post #122,037
10/20/03 2:18:01 PM
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It must take a certain state of mind...
...because I, for one, find Ashton's essays quite readable, and his grammar, rather than tortured, seems like he is stretching a gross and inelegant language into saying more than it would be capable of in lesser hands.
In that final hour, when each breath is a struggle to take, and you are looking back over your life's accomplishments, which memories would you treasure? The empires you built, or the joy you spread to others?
Therin lies the true measure of a man.
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Post #122,038
10/20/03 2:18:31 PM
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Or it may just be we're doing the same drugs.
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Post #122,039
10/20/03 2:19:27 PM
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There is a reason your handle is "inthane"
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Post #122,097
10/20/03 8:38:58 PM
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Re: It must take a certain state of mind...
Would that I were capable of uniformly achieving what you have phrased so kindly -- but on occasion, the collective consciousness will give any of us a break ;-)
IMO most all topics involving homo-sap behaviour cannot be treated as logical derivations from some 'principle', as so many would hope (and some even believe). Hell, you can even get a degree in Belief of That!
Glad to hear that you can follow a sentence with more than one subordinate clause -- it's certainly the way my brain functions; it is bloody well Not a serial-processing kind of thing, however cutesy two-state logic pretends. (Besides, my logic is at least tristate: Yes/No/Maybe.) Chopping up interrelated thoughts into these little byte-sized thingies scans rilly well, but it is effete; it gives an impression that an idea really is parseable into its elements, even re humans (!)
Hah.. what a concept.
Oh well.
I write for the clarification of my experiences, and for any few who find it close-enough to match their similar ones. (Nor am I the first to put it that way) Believing that all answers can at best evoke only better questions, I eschew the textbook imparting of data, leaving that for those with an aim to fix a config file or repair a carburetor. (Frankly I never read textbooks as literature, but I guess that can be an acquired taste, if there are no books around.)
Cheers,
Ashton, all illegible and irrelevant
(That's what killfiles are for - to protect one from the inconvenient and {ugh} non-Standard. It is a perfect concept For Our Time\ufffd)
:-\ufffd
IWETH Extralinguistic Yammerers LLC
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Post #122,103
10/20/03 9:24:36 PM
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Re: It must take a certain state of mind...
You guys miss the point about Ash - he's just using an inferior medium, langauge, to express subtle ideas - many of which are intermingled.
So you read it interlaced - rapid scan followed by rapid scan instead of one continuous scan.
-drl
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Post #122,112
10/20/03 11:41:49 PM
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Comparison.
Ashton strikes me as someone who really wants another dozen punctuation characters.
Wade.
Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
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Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please
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Post #122,226
10/21/03 4:11:23 PM
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Thou sayest
And very well.
Ever hear Victor Borge's lampoon of ~ audio "punctuation" (in which he uses noises to insert ", !, ?, etc.) ?? 'Funny' - yes, but.. he was too Great a teller of stories , not to have meant also, something serious: IMnsHO.
Writing, one needs the skill of an Oscar Wilde .. to indicate well, "raised eyebrows" or, "yeah, in a Pig's eye" - and various artifices which spoken language manages well-enough, but written-language: demands virtuosity which few possess, most of the time (when we're not On a Roll).
I am hardly the first to hold this view. Poetry, for just one ex. - activates quite Different parts of the (mere) brain than prose, when actually listened-to; and 'mind' -- we haven't the foggiest about That's relationship to 'brain'. QED.
See.. I believe that the 'emotional mind' is *not* 'the intellectual mind' (though spatial configuration, overlapping of 'domains' etc - are not the Point) It doesn't matter which space-time 'each' inhabits: still IMhO they Are 'separate'; their interaction is the most complex of all which we cannot ever really 'parse', and forgetting that.. leads to such Gross misperceptions of the entire world as (say)
Imagining that 'Facts and facts' exist; imagining further that these can prove or 'Prove' something -!- thus {alas} creating . . .
My Gramma, the marlowes of the world, the prototype Neoconman and: Killing for Peace, plus all the other familiar forms of Language Murder - rampant in our times, and the basis *now* for whole Corporate Meeja Networks! Even.
Rest case.
(I don't expect my prosody to 'work' either consistently or for all forms of 'listening'. And only vanity ever imagines that you can edit your own stuff - very well.. ;-)
Cheers,
I.
BTW.. I feel that if we do not find some new ways to help Language to 'protect itself' [?!] from this rampant Murder, now ever-so popular -- the species Shall commit Seppuku by any of the well-known present techno- means. There may well be better ways to 'say' this, but I am quite sure of what I feel about the situation: rightly or incorrectly.
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