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New Nup, I'll only conceed that Wilkinson's foot
will save England from having to play a proper game :-)

They only scored 1 (one) try in that game, no bonus points, & as always the game never got up to speed once field goals (what we call them in Australia) become the order of the day. [link|http://www.rugby.com.au/aus.rugby/pages/1079/group/9619|http://www.rugby.com...s/1079/group/9619] (see words Field Goal in middle of 2nd para)

Everyone is saying that even the Japs play a more interesting game - heros of the series (even if their total bonus score is 0 :-)

Cheers

Doug

NZ is the team.

#2 - Peter, We must be watching different games - Here is accurate press opinions

Rugby: England's 'worst performance for months' say English papers
[link|http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_sports/view/53047/1/.html|http://www.channelne...iew/53047/1/.html]
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Here are realistic comments from England Rugby chat forum by Englanders

[link|http://www.rfu.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/for.showthread/threadid/3193.cfm|http://www.rfu.com/i...threadid/3193.cfm]
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Pretty good assessment. We didn't play very well, the Boks missed their chances, but at the end of the day we'll take the win. I was initially very disappointed with the performance, but on the plus side we've got two more fairly easy games to improve in
<<

Again, NZ is the team & OZ are already looking a good 2nd, with Japs as heros of the series

Cheers D
Collapse Edited by dmarker Oct. 19, 2003, 04:55:17 PM EDT
Nup, I'll only conceed that Wilkinson's foot

will save England from having to play a proper game :-)

They only scored 1 (one) try in that game, no bonus points, & as always the game never got up to speed once field goals (what we call them in Australia) become the order of the day.

Cheers

Doug

NZ is the team.
Collapse Edited by dmarker Oct. 19, 2003, 05:23:13 PM EDT
Nup, I'll only conceed that Wilkinson's foot
will save England from having to play a proper game :-)

They only scored 1 (one) try in that game, no bonus points, & as always the game never got up to speed once field goals (what we call them in Australia) become the order of the day.

Everyone is saying that even the Japs play a more interesting game - heros of the series (even if their total bonus score is 0 :-)

Cheers

Doug

NZ is the team.
Collapse Edited by dmarker Oct. 19, 2003, 05:29:11 PM EDT
Nup, I'll only conceed that Wilkinson's foot
will save England from having to play a proper game :-)

They only scored 1 (one) try in that game, no bonus points, & as always the game never got up to speed once field goals (what we call them in Australia) become the order of the day.

Everyone is saying that even the Japs play a more interesting game - heros of the series (even if their total bonus score is 0 :-)

Cheers

Doug

NZ is the team.

#2 - We must be watching different games - Here is press opinions

Rugby: England's 'worst performance for months' say English papers
[link|http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_sports/view/53047/1/.html|http://www.channelne...iew/53047/1/.html]
***************************

Here are realistic comments from England Rugby chat forum

[link|http://www.rfu.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/for.showthread/threadid/3193.cfm|http://www.rfu.com/i...threadid/3193.cfm]
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Pretty good assessment. We didn't play very well, the Boks missed their chances, but at the end of the day we'll take the win. I was initially very disappointed with the performance, but on the plus side we've got two more fairly easy games to improve in
<<

Cheers D
New Gadzooks, cobber, you invented a new smiley
The "rugby player with a subdural hematoma"

O:-)
-drl
New Tks will piggyback off your post, more bad news (4 England)
[link|http://rugbyheaven.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/19/1066502070724.html|http://rugbyheaven.s...066502070724.html]

"World Cup blown wide open"

One excerpt ...
"While impressed by England's commitment and ability to rally, Australia also noted that they lacked inspiration in attack and had to rely on South African mistakes and the 100 per cent kicking success of five-eighth Jonny Wilkinson to put the Springboks away. It was more a case of South Africa losing it than England winning the big one".


New Given....
...that of the past 11 games Down Under, the collective power of the roos and the kiwis have only been able to win 3 against England, what makes you think anything's going to change?


Peter
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New The way they played against RSA :-)
As one of the people said in the links I posted. Past performances have a habit of going out the window in a new comp.

BUT, If it were just the backs from each team playing & with Wilko's magic boot, I'd give England a very good chance :-)

Anyway, the supposed favorites, ain't favorite no more :-( Keeps bringing the odds back to the magic K-1-W-1 team. Just take a look at young Daniel Carter & Ma'a Nonu who are newcomers & relatively unknown outside NZ - these are budding stars already making a dramatic mark, esp Carter. Carter has allowed Carlos Spencer to focus on his tacktical kicking and backline management whilst young Daniel just keeps popping penalties & conversions twixt the posts from anywhere in the field. Yup, he hasn't got round to emulating Wilko's drop-goal talent but Wilko doesn't have a monopoly on that. Ma'a has stepped in as a clone for Tana Umunga - even looks like him, had to bleach his dreadlocks so that people could tell them apart. This is one firey young lad).


Cheers

Doug

#2
Alright, a compliment to England - if it were *just* Wilkinson vs his opp number in almost any other team, I'd back England.

Expand Edited by dmarker Oct. 20, 2003, 03:30:46 AM EDT
New Dude.
The England/RSA match was a GOOD GAME. It was hard, technical, rugby-for-purists.

Your commentators either don't get to see much rugby union, or else they're confusing what they're seeing with rugby league, which is a different game altogether.

England are going to win the World Cup. New Zealand are going to receive a nasty shock from the Boks, and the French are going to surprise the Aussies.


Peter
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New Mon ami, Non non non!, regardez le Japonais
They gave the French such a fright!!!.

Re predictions ...
Turn your TV the other way up :-)

Cheers Doug
     World Rugby: Kanaks play good game (but still go down 59-6) - (dmarker) - (13)
         Correction. - (pwhysall) - (12)
             I didn't realise you rated Australia that highly... - (static)
             Hmm- last night watched dismal match between UK & Sth Africa - (dmarker) - (10)
                 Blithering nonsense - (pwhysall) - (9)
                     Re: Blithering nonsense - (deSitter) - (8)
                         Re: Blithering nonsense - (pwhysall)
                         Nup, I'll only conceed that Wilkinson's foot - (dmarker) - (6)
                             Gadzooks, cobber, you invented a new smiley - (deSitter) - (1)
                                 Tks will piggyback off your post, more bad news (4 England) - (dmarker)
                             Given.... - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                 The way they played against RSA :-) - (dmarker) - (2)
                                     Dude. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                         Mon ami, Non non non!, regardez le Japonais - (dmarker)

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