Who/what is cornflake girl?

Post #12,028 by wharris2 10/5/01 9:59:06 PM Reply	Who/what is cornflake girl? Who knows how empty the sky is In the place of a fallen tower. Who knows how quiet it is in the home Where a son has not returned. -- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)
Post #12,261 by inthane-chan 10/8/01 1:21:45 PM Reply	Tori Amos song. [link\|http://www.hereinmyhead.com/collect/under/utp8.html"\|"Never was a Cornflake Girl..."] Tori writes some !%!% weird lyrics. Try "Space Dog" sometime. "Deck the halls, I'm young again, I'm young again. Racing turtles, the grapefruit is winning. Seems I keep missing the story so where's Neal when you need him? Somewhere someone must know the ending..." "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #12,282 by Ashton 10/8/01 2:52:35 PM Reply	Who's Tori Amos?
Post #12,284 by inthane-chan 10/8/01 3:04:16 PM Reply	Angsty female singer. Google is your friend. I've referred to her as the only artist I know of who can use a piano as an offensive weapon. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #12,381 by static 10/9/01 1:40:33 AM Reply	I find her rather scary. She is a pastor's daughter, but she doesn't accept Christianity. I have an interview in a music mag somewhere where she admits the song "Icicle Icicle" is about masturbating in a church prayer room. What was scarier is that I knew a pastor's daughter whose favourite singer was Tori Amos. Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #12,390 by Ashton 10/9/01 4:35:22 AM 10/9/01 4:40:17 AM Reply	Gotta remember yer Freud (more popular - but Jung's smarter) Have to symbolically kill the parents ! in order to grow. (or you end up bein a CPA er Chartered Accountant) Besides.. angst in the young - beats ennui or mindless conformity, no? :-\ufffd (Expect offspring of religious-atheists to spawn Fundamentalists of some stripe ;-) Edited by Missing User 70 Oct. 9, 2001, 04:40:17 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #12,398 by Meerkat 10/9/01 7:57:44 AM Reply	I have respect for Tori (Amos, not necessarily Spelling!)... and that's irrespective of the whole rejected Christianity thing, which I only learnt in that there post up there. I'm not a huge fan of her music but I love her take on 'Smells like Teen Spirit'. She has a talent for turning a song on its head. I'm kinda tempted to get her 'Strange Little Girls' album of cover versions (or interpretations, or call it what you will). I read somewhere else that she gave birth to her kid after 3 or so miscarriages. Like, whoa, no idea what it would be like to go through such a thing, so more power to her, I say. On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
Post #12,508 by Ashton 10/9/01 5:50:28 PM Reply	No opinion on her work - no exposure. (Maybe will try to catch a song or two, and see) but she sounds like my kinda gal - doesn't allow folks to staple some canned philosophy to her nose, discovers her own. (and look at all the freeze-dried Guilt she doesn't have to eat!) :-\ufffd
Post #12,438 by inthane-chan 10/9/01 12:39:10 PM Reply	Yep. That is indeed what Icicle Icicle is about. She is scary - she is a woman imbued with power. I saw her in concert once - unfortunately, it was during her attempt to become more "mainstream," so I didn't get much of the "girl and her piano" attitude that comes through on her earlier albums. Still, the amount of energy that she exuded was VERY large. Her music in part is about betrayal by the father/male figures in her life - whether or not this is deserved I cannot say, because I don't know her full life story. Still, she often nail.head.hits on a regular basis - the songs "Precious Things" and "Crucify Me" are excellent examples of the myriad little ways we betray ourselves and set ourselves up for failure. She strikes me as somebody who can see through a lot of bullshit, and can yell out for everybody to hear, "Hey, this is bullshit!" but doesn't quite know what to do after that. In that way, she's a lot like me. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #12,453 by wharris2 10/9/01 2:11:06 PM Reply	Another one is Jewel The songs that make the top 50 are catchy and dancable. Until you listen to the words. My lord, that woman hasn't sung a cheery song ever. Everything is angst and abandonment. Who knows how empty the sky is In the place of a fallen tower. Who knows how quiet it is in the home Where a son has not returned. -- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)
Post #12,458 by Fearless Freep 10/9/01 2:25:15 PM Reply	yeah, uh huh... always reminds me of [link\|http://www.stormpages.com/lyrics/text/infinity.html#9\|"Just Let Me Breathe"] from Dream Theater ... The big machines take care of you Until you kill yourself And then the sales go through the roof Calculated, formulated Feed my head with simple thoughts And let me breathe instead of being taught All bottled up and tearing at the seams I'm bored Just let me breathe A daily dose of eMpTyV Will flush your mind right down the drain Shannon Hoon and Kurt Cobain, Make yourself a household name, yeah-yeah Yeah Just close your mind You can find all you need with your eyes Strike up your best angst ridden posture, whoa Manufactured anger Let's not forget my legacy All my heroes have failed me Now they're dead and buried, yeah The big machines will take care of you Until the fashion fades And the checks go through My bankroll's red And my face is blue And still they'll turn their backs on me for someone new ... Jay O'Connor "Going places unmapped to do things unplanned to people unsuspecting"
Post #12,512 by Ashton 10/9/01 6:21:00 PM Reply	Heh.. an analogous review\ufffd That is, from an anthology of er 'dystopias' from '73 entitled, Science Fiction and the New Dark Age - a capsule quote from Damon Knight's 1955, Hell's Pavement. Prescient? PARSIMONY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL . . . WEAR IT OUT; TRADE IT IN; USE IT UP; BUY AGAIN. WHY AM I LUCKY TO BE A CONSUMER? Because all of my needs are given, and all I have to do is work and enjoy myself. WHY CAN'T EVERYBODY BE A CONSUMER? Life has different jobs for each of us to do. For the Consumer, to work and be happy; for the Stockholder and the Executive, to worry and plan. "Life must love the Consumers, for it makes so many of them." Then of course there was, A Boy and His Dog (Harlan Ellison), to prepare us all for the post bin-Laden, er Final Solution of 2010 (??)
Post #12,515 by Fearless Freep 10/9/01 6:28:37 PM Reply	A reference? Then of course there was, A Boy and His Dog (Harlan Ellison) What [link\|http://www.badmovies.org/movies/boyanddog/index.html\|that] the [link\|http://us.imdb.com/Title?0072730\|one] starring Don Johnson? Jay O'Connor "Going places unmapped to do things unplanned to people unsuspecting"
Post #12,523 by Ashton 10/9/01 7:35:29 PM Reply	That be it. Twas a book first, natch.. Apropos of the story: Remember the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists clock? Well, today it's holding at [link\|http://www.bullatomsci.org/\|10 minutes before Noon..] Haven't looked in a long time; thought it was reset to -15 minutes after USSR wasn't (?) IIRC it made -2 minutes or closer, in October 1962. I look for another move, shortly after the Next attack in US.
Post #12,563 by boxley 10/9/01 11:43:01 PM Reply	hack,gag,puke, skank wannabee luckily the skank in chief doesnt allow people with less cellulite to visit the head noser:) thanx, bill tshirt front "born to die before I get old" thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
Post #12,533 by static 10/9/01 8:16:12 PM Reply	Calling it as it is. She strikes me as somebody who can see through a lot of bullshit, and can yell out for everybody to hear, "Hey, this is bullshit!" but doesn't quite know what to do after that. That's one reason I tend to prefer [link\|http://www.ac.biola.edu/~don/steve_taylor/\|Steve Taylor] and [link\|http://www.paulcolmantrio.com/\|Paul Colman]. Wade. "All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #12,588 by Meerkat 10/10/01 5:27:35 AM Reply	Outlook (no not Microsoft) I guess one person's truth is another person's bullshit. Hence the wonderful old saying 'To each his own...' (to which I subscribe) On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.
Post #12,663 by Fearless Freep 10/10/01 1:15:46 PM Reply	Which of course.... ...invalidates admiring a person because they stand up and say "this is BS" because it's only BS to them and not in any real sense to possibly anyone else and if you admire them for their stand all you are doing is reaffirming your own thoughts about what is BS. Jay O'Connor "Going places unmapped to do things unplanned to people unsuspecting"
Post #12,850 by Meerkat 10/11/01 4:52:33 AM Reply	Serves me right for trying to be tactful I guess. On and on and on and on, and on and on and on goes John.

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