Re: What he said, with more detail

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Post #116,553 by deSitter 9/4/03 9:53:20 AM Reply	Re: What he said, with more detail Isn't it true that the whole HTML-based web thing has basically set development methodology back 20 years? It's worse than pages of LOCATE 10,20s and GOTOs.. What's needed is a better page definition language with some real structure to it. -drl
Post #116,556 by drewk 9/4/03 10:04:59 AM Reply	Uhh, HTML is structured The problem is that for five generations of browsers now (and working on the sixth) the browsers are forgiving of poorly written html. Look at the source for this page and tell me it's not structured. === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #116,558 by deSitter 9/4/03 10:15:29 AM Reply	HTML not a page definition language And Scott could make a bag of hammers look smart. -drl

Question about programming with functions. - (static) - (47) - Sept. 4, 2003, 07:17:27 AM EDT

Code that's called once... - (admin) - (21) - Sept. 4, 2003, 07:43:01 AM EDT

What he said, with more detail - (drewk) - (20) - Sept. 4, 2003, 09:31:15 AM EDT

Re: What he said, with more detail - (deSitter) - (2) - Sept. 4, 2003, 09:53:20 AM EDT

Uhh, HTML *is* structured - (drewk) - (1) - Sept. 4, 2003, 10:04:59 AM EDT

HTML not a page definition language - (deSitter) - Sept. 4, 2003, 10:15:29 AM EDT

What he said, and what he before him said ... - (JimWeirich) - (15) - Sept. 4, 2003, 10:14:02 AM EDT

Someone confirm/deny what I was told - (drewk) - (13) - Sept. 4, 2003, 11:07:16 AM EDT

Depends on the language - (admin) - (7) - Sept. 4, 2003, 11:10:36 AM EDT

Re: Depends on the language - (deSitter) - (2) - Sept. 4, 2003, 11:17:50 AM EDT

Sounds more like FORTRAN - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Sept. 4, 2003, 11:21:45 AM EDT

Yes, very FORTRANish - (admin) - Sept. 4, 2003, 11:29:09 AM EDT

Different reason for that, I believe - (drewk) - (3) - Sept. 4, 2003, 12:05:31 PM EDT

We did testing... - (admin) - (2) - Sept. 4, 2003, 01:28:51 PM EDT

D'oh! - (drewk) - (1) - Sept. 4, 2003, 02:42:49 PM EDT

ROFL. -NT - (admin) - Sept. 4, 2003, 02:49:28 PM EDT

I have a 1GHz laptop - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Sept. 4, 2003, 11:30:59 AM EDT

Or better yet - (Arkadiy) - Sept. 4, 2003, 03:49:58 PM EDT

Re: Someone confirm/deny what I was told - (JimWeirich) - (1) - Sept. 4, 2003, 12:41:13 PM EDT

Yeah that guy gets around! - (tuberculosis) - Sept. 4, 2003, 04:12:07 PM EDT

Puh-LEEEEZE! - (jb4) - Sept. 23, 2003, 02:36:42 PM EDT

How big a block? - (static) - Sept. 4, 2003, 09:56:40 PM EDT

Pascal has one up on PHP - (tablizer) - Sept. 13, 2003, 01:01:32 PM EDT

Re: inline PHP code and HTML - (tuberculosis) - (18) - Sept. 4, 2003, 11:19:45 AM EDT

Copy and Paste vs Functions. - (static) - (17) - Sept. 4, 2003, 09:49:32 PM EDT

Nothing wrong with 12 4-5 line functions - (admin) - Sept. 4, 2003, 10:14:18 PM EDT

Typical size of a method in Smalltalk is probably 4-5 lines - (tuberculosis) - (15) - Sept. 4, 2003, 11:47:55 PM EDT

Um. Yabut. - (FuManChu) - (14) - Sept. 5, 2003, 02:46:46 AM EDT

I was wondering how to say that. :-) - (static) - (13) - Sept. 5, 2003, 10:57:35 PM EDT

I'm going for fairly strict layout/form/content separation - (FuManChu) - Sept. 6, 2003, 12:22:53 AM EDT

Do I smell another "OO is better abstraction" war brewing? - (tablizer) - (11) - Sept. 13, 2003, 01:14:42 PM EDT

That is a fault of history OF the current language. - (FuManChu) - (4) - Sept. 13, 2003, 02:17:15 PM EDT

So you reject a language because - (tablizer) - (3) - Sept. 14, 2003, 01:49:36 AM EDT

Not at all. - (FuManChu) - (2) - Sept. 14, 2003, 04:37:02 PM EDT

not very nice wording, if you ask me - (tablizer) - (1) - Sept. 19, 2003, 02:04:09 AM EDT

Then you might have guessed I wasn't trying to be diplomatic -NT - (FuManChu) - Sept. 19, 2003, 02:42:37 AM EDT

Not unless you're spoiling for a fight. -NT - (static) - (1) - Sept. 15, 2003, 07:49:09 AM EDT

No, fighting the spOOilings -NT - (tablizer) - Sept. 19, 2003, 02:07:43 AM EDT

Hey Bryce... - (ChrisR) - (3) - Sept. 15, 2003, 02:52:16 PM EDT

Perhaps - (tablizer) - (2) - Sept. 19, 2003, 01:42:59 AM EDT

I've read way too many Oracle books lately - (ChrisR) - (1) - Sept. 19, 2003, 10:44:14 AM EDT

thanks for the quote -NT - (tablizer) - Sept. 20, 2003, 12:38:50 AM EDT

Re: Question about programming with functions. - (JayMehaffey) - Sept. 4, 2003, 02:24:13 PM EDT

Code as a Communications Tool - (gdaustin) - Sept. 4, 2003, 02:33:16 PM EDT

Code for readability - (broomberg) - (3) - Sept. 5, 2003, 10:24:10 PM EDT

Profiling and optimizing. - (static) - (2) - Sept. 5, 2003, 10:51:02 PM EDT

Difficult to optimize the algorithm after the fact - (broomberg) - (1) - Sept. 6, 2003, 11:42:37 AM EDT

Yes, I know. - (static) - Sept. 7, 2003, 02:46:59 AM EDT

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