Post #116,276
9/1/03 10:09:26 PM
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Excuse me?
Mathematicians?
Sure math is a requirement for programming, but does a mathematics degree mean they are expert programmers?
It says nothing about their ability to decide the origin of the common code or whether SCO owned the rights at that point or not (most likely not) since most mathematicians don't take law as part of their curriculum.
It just makes it less credable that they aren't currently at MIT.
~~~)-Steven----
"I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country..."
General George S. Patton
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Post #116,278
9/1/03 10:15:00 PM
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You've just put your finger on the reason . . .
. . for mathematicians. They can find matches in the code but haven't the slightest idea what they're looking at. This meets SCO's requirements perfectly.
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Post #116,362
9/2/03 2:46:22 PM
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Ben Tilly would object to that characterization! :)
Alex
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something." -- last words of Pancho Villa (1877-1923)
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Post #116,377
9/2/03 5:36:34 PM
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But they didn't hire him, did they?
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #118,293
9/19/03 10:36:36 PM
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Why?
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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Post #118,307
9/20/03 3:30:42 AM
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Re: Why?
Erm... I guess the Gryg is either saying you're a SCO, or a mathematician. --\r\n
Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]\r\n
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What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n
[link|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever.\r\n
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Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead.\r\n[link|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html]\r\n
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Post #118,326
9/20/03 11:31:56 AM
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Re: Why?
Because he says mathematicians "haven't the slightest idea what they're looking at". Surely you would know what you're looking at!
Good to see you pop up here again!
Alex
"Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something." -- last words of Pancho Villa (1877-1923)
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Post #118,332
9/20/03 1:27:23 PM
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Expanding on what I said before...
Why should I object to the truth?
Mathematicians would be ideal for exactly the reason that Andrew said. You can readily find mathematicians who can define some theoretical test for "matches" but who have no clue what it means. And who can be convinced to adopt a meaning of "matches" which is insanely broad, without the necessary context to see how silly the answer is.
That doesn't mean that all mathematicians would be clueless on the topic. But their mathematical training is not going to give them the necessary insight to figure out what a meaningful answer is.
Cheers,
Ben
PS Glad to be back. I now have an internet connection again. But I have a bit of catching up to do...
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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Post #116,364
9/2/03 2:57:09 PM
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Expert Programmers
I knew a few excellent programmers that stunk at math, couldn't finish Algerbra or anything more advanced. Couldn't deal with fractions or anything more advanced. But they could write programs and do complex formulas really well.
Then I have known some Math Experts who also were programmers, but the programs stunk and crashed a lot.
Not sure what the Math Experts were looking for, maybe pattern matches in code? Like "StrUserName" variable names, etc? It is very common to use the same naming convention and come up with duplicate names. It is how the code is styled and used that shows a difference. Also comments may be different.
But then if the Math Experts were not looking at Linux code, but an old 1980's Unix clone which licensed the Unix code, then they would find a lot of matches. So SCO could have shown the Math Experts a different code than Linux.
"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"
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Post #116,366
9/2/03 3:03:05 PM
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Thar she blows...
Are you sure you even read what you typed Norm?
Please. Thank you. Move along... nothing to see here.
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Post #116,424
9/3/03 6:04:50 AM
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Programmers are Artists, Norm. I've known this for years.
Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
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Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please
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