Oh come on...

Post #113,892 by folkert 8/15/03 3:01:23 PM Reply	Oh come on... You know as well as I do... Microsoft can't afford to bite off the customers hands. Even they will initially do this... They will provide backwards compatibility in Longhorn. Even IF longhorn actually ISN'T a code successor to WXP & W2K server. They just want to make a good stand to get the "kneejerkers" to buy into it lock-stock-n-barrell. After they DIP into those pockets... there will be knashing of teeth... and threats of more lawsuits... then those "Oh shoot" We just HAPPEN to have those compatibility files right here... hehe Sorry for the inconvience. Blah Blah Blah... -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] [insert witty saying here]
Post #113,894 by inthane-chan 8/15/03 3:25:31 PM Reply	Why do ya think they bought Virtual PC? I think it was them, at least... Virtualize a WinXP session inside of Longhorn. And though you hold the keys to ruin of everything I see/With every prison blown to dust, my enemies walk free/Though all the kingdoms turn to sand and fall into the sea/ I'm mad about you I'm mad about you
Post #113,896 by altmann 8/15/03 3:29:38 PM Reply	Re: Oh come on... From [link\|http://msdn.microsoft.com/events/pdc/tracks.aspx\|http://msdn.microsof...s/pdc/tracks.aspx] "Exploiting "Longhorn" Features from within Your Win32\ufffd/MFC Application " My guess is it'll be something along the lines of some new common file dialogs and WinFS aware I/O APIs -- Chris Altmann
Post #113,899 by orion 8/15/03 3:53:20 PM Reply	You are half-right Microsoft bought out Virtual PC, I predict that Longhorn won't have backwards compatability but for $350USD extra you can buy a copy of Virtual PC and XP Home Edition. Microsoft isn't so stupid, they will sell the backwards compatability with a copy of the older OS to go with it. Not only that, but OS updates will be available on the subscription level only for Longhorn. So if any worms do come out for it, either pay up or be SOL. *"Lady I only speak two languages, English and Bad English!" - Corbin Dallas "The Fifth Element"*
Post #113,916 by Andrew Grygus 8/15/03 8:33:17 PM Reply	A Longhorn tester . . . . (not a Microsoft employee (who was the only persong who flamed me over "2003 and Beyond" (but we had a cordial email exchange after that))) when I said I expected there would be a "compatibility module" comming out strategically late, told me "there will be no compatibility module". Now, how much he knows, I do not know. How stable Microsoft's intentions are is also highly questionable, probably to Microsoft as well as everyone else (there was to be a Longhorn Server - then there wasn't, just an "add-on" to Windows 2003 Server, now there is most definitely and irrevocably a Longhorn Server, etc.). Microsoft is capable of adopting the attitude, "If they're with us, they'll spend the money to upgrade everyting all at once. If they won't spend the money, they're probably going to Linux eventually anyway". What's coming out of Microsoft in the last couple of weeks is very uncompromising. Longhorn will require updating everything. Now, if they can only get it all ready at the same time . . . This is going to be very, very fun to watch. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #113,923 by a6l6e6x 8/15/03 9:01:51 PM Reply	Microsoft could have a Plan B the Longhorn tester doesn't... know about. It could be that if Plan A gets a lot of flack and some big customers balk and threaten to walk, the compatibility module will appear. Alex "Don't let it end like this. Tell them I said something." -- last words of Pancho Villa (1877-1923)
Post #113,942 by Andrew Grygus 8/15/03 10:14:20 PM Reply	Oh yes, and probably Microsoft doesn't know about it yet . . . . that's why I predicted the compatibility module would be late. Just as in previous transitions, it wasn't planned, but a response to threats of rebellion by the RC1 testers. The programming crew gets a late start and rushes, so the fix comes out late and has bugs up the kazoo. Routine Microsoft MO. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #113,940 by Ashton 8/15/03 10:04:31 PM Reply	Sneer at my props to the script-kiddies, if you like But I figure that the Crucial matter over which the Beast and its Wag-Ed armies have no spin- or other control is: A sudden, stark Realization of the scale of Epiphany! as in, Migawd!! all along.. >Gehabt Kindern!< ..The Fuckers have been draining us dry and supplying Pure Crapware cha cha! I believe that this eventuality is the root of Billy n'Ballys' recurrent nighttime cold-sweats. And one particularly Apt and timely Slogan - after the Next MS-Blast quick-successor? ie the grotesque ever-morphing details of Longorn or .nyet and its dancing daily specs - don't mean shit, on the level of the Visceral. Nobody ever likes finally.. Seeing Self as a Sucker. (Some just take a long time to remove the shit from eyes, we see) Ashton Script Kiddies - lots o'Lovin y'all!

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