Post #112,829
8/5/03 8:35:48 PM
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Wonder how his ex-wife is doing?
Janice wasn't it? Seemed comparatively level-headed. And in a Real 'situation'. And there are children.
Nick always did give at least good techno-head, though.
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Post #112,831
8/5/03 8:53:51 PM
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Yeah, Janice - I dunno about women though -
If it was I that was stuck with a newly hatched fundie, I'd sure as hell join the Wicca, not Islam.
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Post #112,832
8/5/03 9:14:45 PM
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Well controlling is as controlling does
nuff sayeed,
hanx,
bill
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Post #112,834
8/5/03 9:23:28 PM
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how about some context here?
An ex-member, I gather, long before my time (12/02 -->). Who was he, for what is he remembered, what did he mean to the old-timers here--if no one minds my asking?
cordially,
Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
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Post #112,836
8/5/03 9:30:35 PM
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Short version severely edited
An hugely interesting mind, a columnist for the original Infoworld Rag edition, a person who had a large impact(on me at least) as a respected reviewer of IT trends, had strongly held personal beleifs which he shared in appropriate online spaces and was a respected although distinctly argumentive (and who aint) style on this fori and precursers. He had a familial crisis which is poked at occationally here as his spouse(ex now) had her own distinct but very welcome thoughts and opinions.
thanx.
bill
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Post #112,843
8/5/03 10:05:41 PM
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What box said...
...plus...it was Nick who presided over nearly all of the topics that turned the old Inforworld Electric forums into what later became IWETHEY. Presided over the birth of the open forum...presided over all of the MS antitrust trial...later became a Linux pundit when there was money in it...now apparently is a systems analyst.
He was never afraid to get into the mix with "the gang".
His ex wife Janice also became a regular participant. I had a chance to go out and meet Nick, Janice and the kids...have dinner and hang out for a while. Truly a nice man and woman.
I hope they are well.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #112,851
8/5/03 10:47:05 PM
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Re: how about some context here?
He was the only one with both balls and brains. I started reading him by accident, just sort of browsing through Infoworld. I was running Netware and Windows 3.1 at the time and was really championing OS/2 - only Nick had the balls to learn OS/2 (most of the people who downed it didn't have a fucking clue about why it was good) and then actually write about it as it deserved (I remember him wearing out his clicking finger opening windows on PM, after crashing Windows 94.9 by opening a lot of windows, exposing the terrible dependence of Windows 95 on conventional memory and DOS).
Nick is brilliant in knowing what is good and what is not, by experience. He gets the drift, and no one else has, before or since. He was a great, correct journalist. He's like Edward R. Murrow. He reported from the front we were all on.
-drl
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Post #112,877
8/6/03 2:55:36 AM
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A raving fundie fuckwit
who was and still is clued up to the nines about Linux.
Ravening, drooling creationist, too.
I don't miss him. That kind of resistance to reality (plus the venom with which he spread Gawd's Lurve) doesn't endear a chap to me.
Peter
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Post #112,887
8/6/03 7:53:38 AM
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{sigh} thus have we two of n- 'personalities'-in-one.
Or as I heard today, going out the door - a comment upon generic Fundies:
~".. and when someone is Certain that they know the Truth, and that most all others have it somewhat Wrong: violence is likely, eventually to follow - for no compromise, reconciliation is possible."
(This was (an unk.) speaker's attempt to answer why? he "found persons with certain mindsets" to be genuinely 'scary'.)
I thought Nick scary too. That tended to nullify pretty much my admiration for his undeniably gutsy battles against the oozing tide of techno mediocrity. For me, anyway. I don't even want to try to imagine what it was like for Janice - such that she, an obviously intelligent and compassionate person - chose another misogynistic World-Plan over: (whatever was) that status quo :(
Ashton
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Post #112,897
8/6/03 9:18:08 AM
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He lost me when he called one of the long-timers here...
"The Ultimate Asshole", in response to a pretty tame quasi-religious joke, IIRC.
John. Busy lad.
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Post #112,900
8/6/03 9:44:59 AM
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Certainly...
...understandable for those who think a good portion of the planet suffer from delusions;-)
Having at least one long standing rule...never discuss religion in >any< kind of company...let alone polite company...I was spared from "fighting the good fight".
In my several conversations...and my afternoon and evening with the man...never once was the subject raised.
And, quite frankly, other people with "strong beliefs" of a non-religious nature have been in my house...for multiple days...and didn't carry on incessantly about certain subjects that they carry on frequently about in these fora. ymmv.
So...while I understand from the participants in those "debates" that there were hard feelings...I don't share them.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #113,273
8/9/03 8:52:50 AM
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Further 2cents worth
I admired Nick's writings for years - tended to defend him (with vigor) in InfoWorld.
Met him at a Linuxworld (along with DeSitter (aka DRL)) in 1999. DeSitter was on a panel run by Nick. Had a couple of meetings / lunches with Nick & was glad to have met him.
A giant among men.
Cheers
Doug
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