Post #112,722
8/4/03 9:11:19 PM
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Plenty more Signs of Nick . .
. . if you go to his [link|http://www.varlinux.org/vlox/html/modules/news/|Var Linux] Web site, which is reasonably active these days. He also has a Christian Web site, but it doesn't interest me so I've only visited there once.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #112,723
8/4/03 9:13:13 PM
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I miss him
-drl
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Post #112,734
8/5/03 8:51:18 AM
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Seconded...
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #112,829
8/5/03 8:35:48 PM
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Wonder how his ex-wife is doing?
Janice wasn't it? Seemed comparatively level-headed. And in a Real 'situation'. And there are children.
Nick always did give at least good techno-head, though.
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Post #112,831
8/5/03 8:53:51 PM
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Yeah, Janice - I dunno about women though -
If it was I that was stuck with a newly hatched fundie, I'd sure as hell join the Wicca, not Islam.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #112,832
8/5/03 9:14:45 PM
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Well controlling is as controlling does
nuff sayeed,
hanx,
bill
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
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Post #112,834
8/5/03 9:23:28 PM
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how about some context here?
An ex-member, I gather, long before my time (12/02 -->). Who was he, for what is he remembered, what did he mean to the old-timers here--if no one minds my asking?
cordially,
Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
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Post #112,836
8/5/03 9:30:35 PM
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Short version severely edited
An hugely interesting mind, a columnist for the original Infoworld Rag edition, a person who had a large impact(on me at least) as a respected reviewer of IT trends, had strongly held personal beleifs which he shared in appropriate online spaces and was a respected although distinctly argumentive (and who aint) style on this fori and precursers. He had a familial crisis which is poked at occationally here as his spouse(ex now) had her own distinct but very welcome thoughts and opinions.
thanx.
bill
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Post #112,843
8/5/03 10:05:41 PM
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What box said...
...plus...it was Nick who presided over nearly all of the topics that turned the old Inforworld Electric forums into what later became IWETHEY. Presided over the birth of the open forum...presided over all of the MS antitrust trial...later became a Linux pundit when there was money in it...now apparently is a systems analyst.
He was never afraid to get into the mix with "the gang".
His ex wife Janice also became a regular participant. I had a chance to go out and meet Nick, Janice and the kids...have dinner and hang out for a while. Truly a nice man and woman.
I hope they are well.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #112,851
8/5/03 10:47:05 PM
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Re: how about some context here?
He was the only one with both balls and brains. I started reading him by accident, just sort of browsing through Infoworld. I was running Netware and Windows 3.1 at the time and was really championing OS/2 - only Nick had the balls to learn OS/2 (most of the people who downed it didn't have a fucking clue about why it was good) and then actually write about it as it deserved (I remember him wearing out his clicking finger opening windows on PM, after crashing Windows 94.9 by opening a lot of windows, exposing the terrible dependence of Windows 95 on conventional memory and DOS).
Nick is brilliant in knowing what is good and what is not, by experience. He gets the drift, and no one else has, before or since. He was a great, correct journalist. He's like Edward R. Murrow. He reported from the front we were all on.
-drl
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Post #112,877
8/6/03 2:55:36 AM
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A raving fundie fuckwit
who was and still is clued up to the nines about Linux.
Ravening, drooling creationist, too.
I don't miss him. That kind of resistance to reality (plus the venom with which he spread Gawd's Lurve) doesn't endear a chap to me.
Peter
[link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire]
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
[link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Blog]
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Post #112,887
8/6/03 7:53:38 AM
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{sigh} thus have we two of n- 'personalities'-in-one.
Or as I heard today, going out the door - a comment upon generic Fundies:
~".. and when someone is Certain that they know the Truth, and that most all others have it somewhat Wrong: violence is likely, eventually to follow - for no compromise, reconciliation is possible."
(This was (an unk.) speaker's attempt to answer why? he "found persons with certain mindsets" to be genuinely 'scary'.)
I thought Nick scary too. That tended to nullify pretty much my admiration for his undeniably gutsy battles against the oozing tide of techno mediocrity. For me, anyway. I don't even want to try to imagine what it was like for Janice - such that she, an obviously intelligent and compassionate person - chose another misogynistic World-Plan over: (whatever was) that status quo :(
Ashton
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Post #112,897
8/6/03 9:18:08 AM
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He lost me when he called one of the long-timers here...
"The Ultimate Asshole", in response to a pretty tame quasi-religious joke, IIRC.
John. Busy lad.
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Post #112,900
8/6/03 9:44:59 AM
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Certainly...
...understandable for those who think a good portion of the planet suffer from delusions;-)
Having at least one long standing rule...never discuss religion in >any< kind of company...let alone polite company...I was spared from "fighting the good fight".
In my several conversations...and my afternoon and evening with the man...never once was the subject raised.
And, quite frankly, other people with "strong beliefs" of a non-religious nature have been in my house...for multiple days...and didn't carry on incessantly about certain subjects that they carry on frequently about in these fora. ymmv.
So...while I understand from the participants in those "debates" that there were hard feelings...I don't share them.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #113,273
8/9/03 8:52:50 AM
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Further 2cents worth
I admired Nick's writings for years - tended to defend him (with vigor) in InfoWorld.
Met him at a Linuxworld (along with DeSitter (aka DRL)) in 1999. DeSitter was on a panel run by Nick. Had a couple of meetings / lunches with Nick & was glad to have met him.
A giant among men.
Cheers
Doug
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Post #112,871
8/6/03 1:19:28 AM
8/6/03 1:21:08 AM
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Re: his 'other' site . .
The last thing he mentioned publicly about is personal life is at:
[link|http://www.petreley.com/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=31&start=0&rid=0|http://www.petreley....=31&start=0&rid=0]
Edit: hit Enter too soon!
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Steve
Edited by Steve Lowe
Aug. 6, 2003, 01:21:08 AM EDT
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Post #112,875
8/6/03 2:05:33 AM
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Now, presuming this story is fair and accurate . .
. . one has to wonder how a seemingly reasonable and intelligent guy emded up married to someone like he's described, and how he'd let it all get so far out of hand completely unaware.
Here, while Rose (not her real name) has written all the checks and paid all the bills for a decade, I've got a damned good grasp of the cash flow and how much money should be where and when it should be there.
Of course, we haven't the slightest grounds for knowing whether this story is fair and accurate, or even at all related to reality, so we can make no judgement in either direction at this time.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #112,878
8/6/03 3:00:50 AM
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Huge pinch of salt taken
While it's a tale of tragedy, without doubt, I'm sure it's not as clear cut as he describes.
True, she dumped him for another.
Big, unanswered question. Why?
Still, Not At All Nice for anyone involved, I wot.
Peter
[link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire]
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
[link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Blog]
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Post #113,275
8/9/03 9:07:43 AM
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Now, that story is bizzare ???
It seems bizzare enough to question who it came from & the intent !!!
(tends to make Nick seem slightly off this planet!)
Cheers
Doug Marker
(But, I am personally aware of stories almost as bizzare, such as a nephew of a friend who just married an Indonesian Muslim girl in Canberra who he met on a one night stand & how when he married her he then converted to Islam & had a 2nd ceremony in Jakarta (this was *his* 3rd wife, one left him after 3 months & drove off with his work van & plumbing tools of trade) - I have seen the photos of both the Australian & Indonesian weddings & I have to say that the whole episode seems bizzare (his life seems bizzare) - rather like Nick's story)
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Post #113,155
8/7/03 10:38:55 PM
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See him at Linux Today
He's also quite an active poster at [link|http://linuxtoday.com|Linux Today]. Particularly with the discussions about articles on the SCO issue.
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