I had written a long response but then on reflection decided that it would not change anything.

It is a bit difficult being outside the US today & trying to talk to people in the US on certain topics. Common sense says that at times of 'extreme' nationalism, join in or bail out.

Sadly there are many here who do have a worldy wisdom & insight beyond crass political jihadism but it seems they may be in a minority.

Doug.

Perhaps one day,
if the world adjusts to the 'new order'
(or the 'new order' gets adjusted)

We may find that place inthe sun where we could thrash out intelligent issues with intelligent debate (and the occasional technology jihad :-)