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New Startup blues...
I too, am doing the work of three. Less time to post these days.

I get about 10 min a day to read what I can, post what I can. Sometimes, I get 30, when I'm lucky.

In the end, my wife is encouraging me to give up on the forum. She thinks I get better info out of google searches, and I waste my time here.
She thinks, since I work so much, that I already spend too much time on computers at work and I need to focus on RL (Real Life) when I'm at home.

However,

I really respect Greg and Rick Moen in the Linux forum.

Peter is a classic brit. I really like Wade. I've liked Maggie for a long time, but she's more busy than I am (and I'm pretty busy).

Then, there's DeSitter (Ross), whom I respect, and orion, Ray and the rest of the lot, whom I seem to get along with, and every once in a while, get a good chat going.

I feel like I know most of you pretty well. We've been through stuff together, job changes, hacked systems, and such.

So, I think it would be hard for me to give up, because I count at least a few of you as "friends".

Nick was a contributor not too long ago.

I know there's some of the best Linux tech people here, short of those who actually wrote the kernel. (Maybe a few of you have even done that.)

However, I really do think we've kind of become a gated community. I'm concerned as Maggie and a few others are, that this has become a little too personal, and that instead of floating good to great ideas around together, we've just started treating others like "family", and I don't really mean that in a good sense. We've learned to 'dis each other just enough.

Familiarity breeds contempt?

With my wife concerned about my work hours and family time, I've actually thought about leaving the forum, too. But, I will miss most of you, and I try to stay at least minimally involved, when I can.

Glen Austin

New Thanks... I think :-)
/me wonders what a "classic Brit" is...


Peter
[link|http://www.debian.org|Shill For Hire]
[link|http://www.kuro5hin.org|There is no K5 Cabal]
[link|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org|Blog]
New Meant as a compliment...
New Also thanks.
I know my post volume has gone down in recent months. I've stay mostly out of Politices et al.

Wade.

Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please

-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

New I think you've hit on it
Its the friends to family in the "not so good" sense that is happening. And I know I would miss the people here, because they are friends.

I consider everyone here a personal friend. I've had many to the house. I've met many others...including some who are no longer here such as Nick.

Perhaps it has been 8 years of "lightning in a bottle". I prefer to think not...instead thinking that this place is truly an internet miracle...bringing together people that otherwise would have had no chance to meet in order for the friendships to blossom.

I have and will continue to strive to meet as many of you in real life as possible...simply because all of my experience tells me that the experience is worth it.

Enough sap for one morning.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New It's much easier to be offensive to someone you've never met
This is a well-known phenomenon (studies have been done, even. woo.): the anonymity of the Internet breeds contempt. People will say and do things they wouldn't think of saying or doing face to face.

I've made a conscious attempt to filter my online activities with this in mind. I'm not always successful, but I believe I've gotten better.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Also true
yah bastard! ;-)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Counter example
**SHUN**
===

Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
     So long. - (cwbrenn) - (91)
         Wish I could talk you out of it... - (bepatient)
         Ditto. - (inthane-chan) - (45)
             So I am the Crux... - (folkert)
             Re: Ditto. - (rcareaga) - (40)
                 Boggling - (ChrisR) - (39)
                     Then, demanding euphemism: you shall decry mere accuracy? - (Ashton) - (1)
                         It does take patience and endurance - (ChrisR)
                     Re: Boggling - (rcareaga) - (9)
                         Maybe, but are they necessary or appropriate? - (Another Scott) - (4)
                             Re: Maybe, but are they necessary or appropriate? - (rcareaga) - (3)
                                 Re: Maybe, but are they necessary or appropriate? - (Nightowl) - (2)
                                     Just a suggestion - (ChrisR) - (1)
                                         Re: Just a suggestion - (Nightowl)
                         You are passing judgement. - (ChrisR) - (1)
                             a nit picked - (rcareaga)
                         Opinions - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                             Points for pith - (drewk)
                     Re: Boggling - (Nightowl) - (26)
                         Re: Boggling - (rcareaga) - (25)
                             Re: Boggling - (Nightowl) - (24)
                                 Aww, geez - (rcareaga) - (23)
                                     Take it elsewhere - (ChrisR) - (22)
                                         Y'know - I know of only one person here who admits to - (Ashton) - (21)
                                             Feel free to ignore mein "orders" - (ChrisR) - (6)
                                                 Re: Feel free to ignore mein "orders" - (Nightowl) - (5)
                                                     He's not. - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                         Re: He's not. - (Nightowl) - (3)
                                                             Ashton was being wry. - (admin)
                                                             It should become a conditioned response. - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                                 Re: It should become a conditioned response. - (Nightowl)
                                             Re: Y'know - I know of only one person here who admits to - (Nightowl) - (2)
                                                 Ashton's like that. - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                                     Re: Ashton's like that. - (Nightowl)
                                             Heads up - (Mike) - (3)
                                                 Re: Heh.. 90% of the time when I 'type'___'system' - (Ashton) - (2)
                                                     Batting 1000 (7 for 7) with "jejeune" tho :-) - (Mike) - (1)
                                                         You have too much time on your hands ;-) c-a-t-a ^h^h -NT - (Ashton)
                                             Re: Y'know - I know of only one person here who admits to - (Nightowl) - (6)
                                                 Re: Y'know - I know of only one person here who admits to - (Nightowl) - (4)
                                                     Posts can't be moved. Some more tips... - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                         Re: Posts can't be moved. Some more tips... - (Nightowl) - (1)
                                                             There are no moderators here. Use your judgement. - (Another Scott)
                                                         Re: Posts can't be moved. Some more tips... - (Nightowl)
                                                 Re: Y'know - I know of only one person here who admits to (new thread) - (Nightowl)
             Not an easy lesson to learn - (bepatient) - (2)
                 Took me a long time - (imric) - (1)
                     We've lost several... - (bepatient)
         So long. - (Steve Lowe) - (1)
             This is ironic... - (Arkadiy)
         :( -NT - (boxley)
         I'll miss you - (orion) - (1)
             Re: I'll miss you - (Nightowl)
         Yes, the US-world has turned *nasty*. I Wonder Why. - (Ashton) - (2)
             The problem, I think for us lefties is... - (mmoffitt)
             You woner why? - (Arkadiy)
         On going and returning and new topics... - (slugbug) - (13)
             Buggy .NET components... (new thread) - (admin)
             Startup blues... - (gdaustin) - (7)
                 Thanks... I think :-) - (pwhysall) - (1)
                     Meant as a compliment... -NT - (gdaustin)
                 Also thanks. - (static)
                 I think you've hit on it - (bepatient) - (3)
                     It's much easier to be offensive to someone you've never met - (admin) - (2)
                         Also true - (bepatient)
                         Counter example - (drewk)
             Re: On going and returning and new topics... - (gdaustin) - (2)
                 sub-second transactional environments - (slugbug)
                 Delivering sub-second response times (new thread) - (admin)
             Great idea - (drewk)
         Chris, I'd like to talk you out of it - (kmself) - (1)
             Agreed. - (FuManChu)
         I may have inadvertently contributed to your decision. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
             Re: I may have inadvertently contributed to your decision. - (Nightowl) - (1)
                 Another thing you might find interesting. - (mmoffitt)
         And thanks for all the fish? - (screamer)
         Good luck Chris, I'll miss you! -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         Re: So long. - (Nightowl)
         Don't be so daft. - (pwhysall)
         Actually - We're all Lumberjacks and we're OK -NT - (Ashton)
         I believe I understand what you are saying. - (dmarker)
         I wish you well - (Mike) - (6)
             Here's when - (drewk) - (5)
                 Think you're right -NT - (Mike)
                 At the beginning . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                     I tried to jumpstart topics - (orion) - (2)
                         Re: I tried to jumpstart topics - (Nightowl)
                         Don't worry about it. - (admin)
         You'll be missed - (Silverlock)
         Re: So long. - (dmcarls)
         Good luck with Nifty Doorways 6.0 -NT - (scoenye)
         For what it's worth... - (jb4)

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