On going and returning and new topics...

Post #112,141

7/30/03 9:16:10 PM

....I do hope you'll return. I like your posts and your strip. I think I understand why you are going.

Like you, I've come to post less and less over time. This is partially because I'm trying to stay employed (doing the work of three; getting the salary of one). But, in addition, there are some subject areas here where I don't feel I can offer much (e.g. no time for flame wars).

It also occurs to me that there are many subject areas that we don't touch on. For example, some technical ones: delivering sub-second response time in a transactional environment; what to do about the hell of integrating buggy .NET components with the rest of the (non-M$) application stack; high availability via application clustering,monitoring tools that actually work, etc. etc.

In short, I wonder if a "topic of the week" forum might not be a good way to re-engage the brain power that exists in this locale. I'm not sure how much of an admin hassle this might be, but it is just a thought. Both technical and non-technical topics could be highlighted. Plausable?

-Slugbug

Post #112,149

by admin

7/30/03 9:42:30 PM

Buggy .NET components... (new thread)

Created as new thread #112148 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=112148|Buggy .NET components...]

Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."

Post #112,155

by gdaustin

7/30/03 10:14:11 PM

Startup blues...

I too, am doing the work of three. Less time to post these days.

I get about 10 min a day to read what I can, post what I can. Sometimes, I get 30, when I'm lucky.

In the end, my wife is encouraging me to give up on the forum. She thinks I get better info out of google searches, and I waste my time here.
She thinks, since I work so much, that I already spend too much time on computers at work and I need to focus on RL (Real Life) when I'm at home.

However,

I really respect Greg and Rick Moen in the Linux forum.

Peter is a classic brit. I really like Wade. I've liked Maggie for a long time, but she's more busy than I am (and I'm pretty busy).

Then, there's DeSitter (Ross), whom I respect, and orion, Ray and the rest of the lot, whom I seem to get along with, and every once in a while, get a good chat going.

I feel like I know most of you pretty well. We've been through stuff together, job changes, hacked systems, and such.

So, I think it would be hard for me to give up, because I count at least a few of you as "friends".

Nick was a contributor not too long ago.

I know there's some of the best Linux tech people here, short of those who actually wrote the kernel. (Maybe a few of you have even done that.)

However, I really do think we've kind of become a gated community. I'm concerned as Maggie and a few others are, that this has become a little too personal, and that instead of floating good to great ideas around together, we've just started treating others like "family", and I don't really mean that in a good sense. We've learned to 'dis each other just enough.

Familiarity breeds contempt?

With my wife concerned about my work hours and family time, I've actually thought about leaving the forum, too. But, I will miss most of you, and I try to stay at least minimally involved, when I can.

Glen Austin

Post #112,186

by pwhysall

7/31/03 1:12:57 AM

Thanks... I think :-)

/me wonders what a "classic Brit" is...

Post #112,240

by gdaustin

7/31/03 10:51:24 AM

Meant as a compliment...

Post #112,370

by static

8/1/03 1:45:55 AM

Also thanks.

I know my post volume has gone down in recent months. I've stay mostly out of Politices et al.

Wade.

Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed

Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please

-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

Post #112,380

by bepatient

8/1/03 8:12:06 AM

I think you've hit on it

Its the friends to family in the "not so good" sense that is happening. And I know I would miss the people here, because they are friends.

I consider everyone here a personal friend. I've had many to the house. I've met many others...including some who are no longer here such as Nick.

Perhaps it has been 8 years of "lightning in a bottle". I prefer to think not...instead thinking that this place is truly an internet miracle...bringing together people that otherwise would have had no chance to meet in order for the friendships to blossom.

I have and will continue to strive to meet as many of you in real life as possible...simply because all of my experience tells me that the experience is worth it.

Enough sap for one morning.

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition}

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]

Post #112,399

by admin

8/1/03 10:29:06 AM

It's much easier to be offensive to someone you've never met

This is a well-known phenomenon (studies have been done, even. woo.): the anonymity of the Internet breeds contempt. People will say and do things they wouldn't think of saying or doing face to face.

I've made a conscious attempt to filter my online activities with this in mind. I'm not always successful, but I believe I've gotten better.

Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."

Post #112,401

by bepatient

8/1/03 10:37:13 AM

Also true

yah bastard! ;-)

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition}

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]

Post #112,404

by drewk

8/1/03 10:43:10 AM

Counter example

**SHUN**

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Post #112,158

by gdaustin

7/30/03 10:18:02 PM

Re: On going and returning and new topics...

<slugbug>It also occurs to me that there are many subject areas that we don't touch on. For example, some technical ones: delivering sub-second response time in a transactional environment; what to do about the hell of integrating buggy .NET components with the rest of the (non-M$) application stack; high availability via application clustering,monitoring tools that actually work, etc. etc.

I would like this also. It would encourage me to stay, too.

Monitoring tools that work would be big for me. Buggy .Net components.

Also, I'd like to talk about security, too.

Delivering sub-second resposne time in a transaction environment. Maggie, you and I need to talk sometime. I've done this, at two companies. And I've built lots of systems with 5-30 second response times, too (which did a whole lot more than the subsecond ones did).

Alas, my time is up for tonight and I need to go read to my 3 year old.

Glen Austin

Post #112,174

by slugbug

7/30/03 11:14:09 PM

sub-second transactional environments

Glen,

It is possible to deliver sub-second response time in transactional environments and I've done it, too (same as you). But, I'd be interested in discussing:

- what you give up to achieve sub-second response time (compare to 2-5 sec. env.)
- architecting SQL for optimal performance
- how to pinpoint where you are taking the performance hit in distributed apps.

The last point ties into monitoring tools....currently doing a proof of concept with a distributed monitoring tool.

-Slugbug

P.S. Reading to the 3 yr. old is highly worthwhile :-)

Post #112,226

by admin

7/31/03 10:00:32 AM

Delivering sub-second response times (new thread)

Created as new thread #112225 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=112225|Delivering sub-second response times]

Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."

Post #112,216

by drewk

7/31/03 9:22:13 AM

Great idea

That's what we've been missing since the original IWE fora broke down. Without a regular source of new topics, we keep re-hashing the same ones over and over. A few people have taken cracks at starting up regular columns, but they (scratch that, we) have all found out how hard it is to do when you're not getting paid for it.

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