Post #111,248
7/24/03 10:23:32 AM
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Interesting note:
I've been listening to a "discussion" between a Salon journalist and CEO of Clear Channel on Fresh Air yesterday.
The Salon guy kept harping on 12,000 radio stations owned by Clear Channel, with the next competitor having less than 300.
The CEO countered that Clear Channel controls 12% of commercial radiostation in the country.
Why are 12% so important? And, do we really have 100,000 commercial stations around here? Not counting NPR and colleges and such?
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Post #111,249
7/24/03 10:28:53 AM
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Pondering.
Hmmm. 12% of the stations. What does that translate to in audience numbers? Small stations vs. powerhouses. I have no proof but I have a feeling the Clearchannel stations are not going to be the smallest players in whatever local market they are in.
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Post #111,254
7/24/03 10:50:10 AM
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From their own numbers
[link|http://www.clearchannel.com/radio/|http://www.clearchannel.com/radio/] Clear Channel Radio, the largest operator of radio stations in the United States, provides advertisers with a coast-to-coast platform of more than 1200 stations. Broadcasting across all 50 states and the District of Columbia, Clear Channel programming reaches more than 110 million listeners every week. Advertisers spend nearly 20% of their radio advertising dollars with Clear Channel.
In addition to the reach of our own 1200 stations, Clear Channel's Premiere Radio Network syndicates more than 100 programs to more than 7,800 radio stations total. Premiere reaches 180 million listeners a week ...
Clear Channel Radio, which daily reaches 54% of all people ages 18-49 in the U.S., realigned into eight geographical divisions in 2001. Their emphasis. Since the [link|http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/popclock|current population] of the U.S. is 291,591,931, they're claiming that not only do they reach that many people, but that 38% of the entire population listens to one of their stations each week.
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Post #111,260
7/24/03 11:00:48 AM
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Here's one who actively avoids them.
I've had to drag the wife along kicking and screaming, but she's slowly coming around to my way of seeing it.
Clearchannel.Listeners -= 2;
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Post #111,399
7/25/03 2:22:18 AM
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All the radio you'll ever need...
...streaming across the internet: [link|http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/|BBC Radio].
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Post #111,602
7/26/03 9:40:52 PM
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Not me
The local ClearChannel oldies station in Milwaukee played almost continuous Vietnam war protest songs during the run-up to the invasion of Iraq.
At one point, I mentioned to my daughter that they were playing a considerable number of songs with rather subtle coded anti-war messages, like Last Train to Clarkstown. She answered "What's subtle about 'WAR Huh! What is it Good For?'" which happened to have played a few minutes earlier.
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Post #111,603
7/26/03 9:56:23 PM
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s/town/ville/
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Post #111,261
7/24/03 11:04:30 AM
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None of the stations I listen to.
One of mine is in Windsor, though.
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-scott anderson
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Post #111,488
7/25/03 4:49:36 PM
8/21/07 6:02:56 AM
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CKLW?
That was my fave growing up.
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Post #111,273
7/24/03 12:56:16 PM
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How many stations do you listen to?
Me, about 1/2 a dozen.
NPR mostly, but for music I'll bounce around a whole bunch of stations including WYSP which is a ClearChannel stattion. Am I counted in that if I listen to 5 songs a week?
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Post #111,276
7/24/03 1:58:44 PM
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Counted
Even when the channel scan hits the station...
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Post #111,286
7/24/03 3:22:19 PM
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Then listener count has no meaning
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Post #111,288
7/24/03 3:28:04 PM
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How could they count that?
There isn't any feedback from a radio to the station. Figures are established by telephone polling. "What station are you listening to now?"
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