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Post #10,988
by bluke
9/30/01 4:54:30 AM
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New Palestinians: Israel simply is not yours
This is a great article which makes my point better then I have been making.
[link|http://www.suntimes.com/output/steinberg/cst-nws-stein09.html|http://www.suntimes...stein09.html]
Post #10,999
by wharris2
9/30/01 1:35:44 PM
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New Hear ye, hear ye
Who knows how empty the sky is
In the place of a fallen tower.
Who knows how quiet it is in the home
Where a son has not returned.

-- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)
Post #11,042
by a6l6e6x
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9/30/01 9:57:31 PM
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New "Gaza, West Bank, & E. Jerusalem are Spoils of War".
And you expect peace with that? Logically then, Israel can become the spoils of war to the folks that don't like the current state of affairs.

Might makes right. Yep.

And leveling the buildings of your enemy to the ground, because you can, is right too? It happens on a regular basis to Israeli foes.

Where have I seen that, lately?

Advancing civilization, one tactic at a time.
Alex
Whom the gods destroy, they first make mad. -- Euripides
Post #11,060
by bluke
10/1/01 3:39:21 AM
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New Re: "Gaza, West Bank, & E. Jerusalem are Spoils of War".
The fact is in 1967, Israel offered everything back in return for peace. The Arabs responded with the famous 3 no's of Khartoum. The fact is that if you start a war and lose it you pay the price. Let us look at some historical examples:
The French took Alsace-Lorraine, in 1945 from Germany. Its consequent occupation must not be rewarded. "A full withdrawal for full peace" should operate here.
The US took much of the Southwest by force from Mexico, give it back.
     Why Settlements? - (tablizer) - (38) - Sept. 16, 2001, 11:33:56 AM EDT
         It depends whether you considier them occupied territories - (wharris2) - (24) - Sept. 16, 2001, 02:52:19 PM EDT
             signed contract - (tablizer) - (21) - Sept. 16, 2001, 05:07:43 PM EDT
                 Can't speak for every case - (wharris2) - (20) - Sept. 18, 2001, 03:53:16 PM EDT
                     wharris forgets - (duke) - (19) - Sept. 20, 2001, 10:20:24 PM EDT
                         The key question is then: - (tablizer) - (18) - Sept. 22, 2001, 02:52:04 PM EDT
                             Settlements and occupied territory - (bluke) - (17) - Sept. 22, 2001, 05:09:57 PM EDT
                                 Brilliant rationalization for Greater Israel. - (a6l6e6x) - (16) - Sept. 22, 2001, 11:55:33 PM EDT
                                     Palestine the wasteland - (bluke) - (13) - Sept. 23, 2001, 04:44:50 AM EDT
                                         Re: Palestine the wasteland and Arafat the Egyptian. - (a6l6e6x) - (12) - Sept. 23, 2001, 04:13:21 PM EDT
                                             The significance of Arafat the Egyptian - (bluke) - Sept. 24, 2001, 04:02:23 AM EDT
                                             Re: Palestine the wasteland - (bluke) - Sept. 24, 2001, 04:11:51 AM EDT
                                             Who are the Palestinians? - (bluke) - (9) - Sept. 24, 2001, 04:17:17 AM EDT
                                                 And to sum it all up. - (a6l6e6x) - (8) - Sept. 26, 2001, 05:07:56 AM EDT
                                                     Show me otherwise - (bluke) - (7) - Sept. 27, 2001, 03:41:48 AM EDT
                                                         It takes incredible arrogance... - (a6l6e6x) - (6) - Sept. 28, 2001, 08:46:25 PM EDT
                                                             They can call themselves Martians ... - (bluke) - Sept. 29, 2001, 04:33:57 PM EDT
                                                             Palestinians: Israel simply is not yours - (bluke) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2001, 04:54:30 AM EDT
                                                                 Hear ye, hear ye -NT - (wharris2) - Sept. 30, 2001, 01:35:44 PM EDT
                                                                 "Gaza, West Bank, & E. Jerusalem are Spoils of War". - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2001, 09:57:31 PM EDT
                                                                     Re: "Gaza, West Bank, & E. Jerusalem are Spoils of War". - (bluke) - Oct. 1, 2001, 03:39:21 AM EDT
                                                             More facts about the "Palestinians" - (bluke) - Oct. 1, 2001, 03:57:42 AM EDT
                                     err blacks in South Africa? - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 27, 2001, 09:06:47 PM EDT
                                         Re: err blacks in South Africa? - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 28, 2001, 09:26:40 PM EDT
             Don't forget - (JayMehaffey) - (1) - Sept. 16, 2001, 06:20:23 PM EDT
                 outliers or backed? - (tablizer) - Sept. 16, 2001, 07:34:36 PM EDT
         The basic reason... - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - Sept. 16, 2001, 02:57:25 PM EDT
             There are still empty deserts in Isreal, no? -NT - (tablizer) - (1) - Sept. 16, 2001, 05:09:22 PM EDT
                 Water: there as everywhere. - (Ashton) - Sept. 16, 2001, 05:32:15 PM EDT
         prolly should get bluke to answer but will give it a shot - (boxley) - (9) - Sept. 17, 2001, 11:04:38 PM EDT
             But - (tablizer) - (8) - Sept. 18, 2001, 08:22:23 AM EDT
                 Want to whine about contracts boyyo - (boxley) - (7) - Sept. 19, 2001, 09:17:58 PM EDT
                     Say what you want about the U.S.A... - (CRConrad) - (6) - Sept. 21, 2001, 03:02:16 AM EDT
                         Yup. - (inthane-chan) - Sept. 21, 2001, 11:08:28 AM EDT
                         they arnt? }:-> - (boxley) - (4) - Sept. 21, 2001, 10:41:29 PM EDT
                             The devil is in the details - (tablizer) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2001, 02:58:36 PM EDT
                                 yes, have you had a hep C vacine? - (boxley) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2001, 09:11:11 PM EDT
                                     I know there have been serious abuses... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Sept. 22, 2001, 09:20:03 PM EDT
                                         yes all, it is explained to us that since we have - (boxley) - Sept. 22, 2001, 09:26:39 PM EDT

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