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New Man tires of sending r\ufffdsum\ufffds to `black hole'

Some others, though, have been forced by the downturn into early retirement. Exact numbers are hard to come by, and these people don't get much attention from the media or the many groups set up to help the unemployed find jobs. But one Silicon Valley man's journey from employment to unemployment to early retirement illustrates the challenges these older laid-off workers face.

Tomi Ito, 64, thought he had several working years left when he was laid off in September 2001 from his job as a software diagnostic engineer with an Internet equipment company.

At first, he strategized on how to get back into the tech game. He took some programming classes and sent countless r\ufffdsum\ufffds into what he calls the ``black hole.''

``You send your r\ufffdsum\ufffd in and you don't hear any reply back. You hear a recruiter call you one time, and that's the last time you hear from them,'' said Ito, who lives in Campbell with his wife and his 98-year-old mother. His three children, now in their 30s, live in the Bay Area and Los Angeles.

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New I am one of those black holes
I used to carefully manage the applicant process when I was trying to hire someone for my department. I'd post job requirements, interview, shepard the process etc. HR would get involved after we'd chosen the person.

I would never reject anyone without telling them. I hated when people did that to me.

Except I'm a GEEK!

I had no business putting my company in legal jeapardy, which happened everytime I gave anyone information. I did not know enough when to keep my mouth shut. Every time I rejected someone and told them why, it could have meant a lawsuit.

Also, by involving HR later on in the process, we would get to the point of making the offer and then HR would kill it based on a reason we were not aware of during the pre-HR process. Which was horrible for the person who thought he had a job only to be told never-mind.

So right now, we have a position open. I was asked to try to find qualified people. I gather the resumes, forward them to my boss, and occasionally comment on the person if I have personal knowledge of them. I will also judge if they can do the job based on the resume and if the warrant further effort. My boss will pass them along to HR for their approval. I am never the last person on the chain of passing the resumes. Too dangerous.

But I will NEVER tell the person who sent me the resume where it is in the process. Just that it got sent along. You may have seen this in our job forum. I will not risk my job opening my mouth. There are too many lawyers waiting to stomp on me.

I will always tell the person my company's name and they can contact HR directly if they wish.
New Saw that happen once
Also, by involving HR later on in the process, we would get to the point of making the offer and then HR would kill it based on a reason we were not aware of during the pre-HR process.
The hiring manager was told what he was authorized to offer for salary. Found someone who was qualified and made an offer, which was accepted. Then HR saw it, and said you can't offer that much to him. Why not? Because it's more than 5% above his previous salary.[1] That he was the most qualified applicant didn't matter. We then hired the second best applicant, for 20% more than the first guy had accepted.


[1] We'll ignore for the moment the fact that it's illegal for them to require current/previous salary information, or for his current/former employer to disclose it.
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New HR live in their own world...

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Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please

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New Yup--Mordor
New I don't tell companies my previous salary.
"I'm sorry, that's company confidential. I'm sure you understand."
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New Happened to me
Interviewed with a maker of Pinball machines. Position was to run the show at a small manufacturing plant just 10 minutes from my then home. The interviewers, (all geeks) put me through the wringer with tech questions. Even gave me a logic puzzle quiz to see how well I could think on my feet. Got the offer and accepted it. Put in my notice at the old job. The Friday before I'm supposed to start, I get a call from the recruiter who arranged the initial meeting telling me *not* to report for work but won't tell me why. After much runaround I find that HR nixed the job for me after realizing I had answered "yes" to "have you ever been convicted of a felony?" (25 years ago, 1/4 lb of pot, 1 year probation). Since they also make slot machines, no felons allowed to work for them.

Bummer.
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     Man tires of sending r\ufffdsum\ufffds to `black hole' - (lincoln) - (6)
         I am one of those black holes - (broomberg) - (5)
             Saw that happen once - (drewk) - (4)
                 HR live in their own world... -NT - (static) - (1)
                     Yup--Mordor -NT - (bbronson)
                 I don't tell companies my previous salary. - (admin)
                 Happened to me - (Silverlock)

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