"restore their credibility"?

Post #107,912 by ben_tilly 6/30/03 3:14:33 PM Reply	"restore their credibility"? WTF is that supposed to mean? That the two parties should continue their drift together as this country heads towards implementing Bush's, "All war, all the time" agenda? Why should people who disagree with the warmongers have to buy into their agenda? Sheesh, Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #107,923 by jake123 6/30/03 4:51:48 PM Reply	Well, if one already agrees with the agenda then everyone has to buy into it before one can describe them as legitimate. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #107,962 by Ashton 6/30/03 10:35:06 PM Reply	As I understand our system: To disagree with the President is unAmerican. To persist, elaborate is treasonous. One must thus, pretend agreement on all pieces of doggerel associated with hot-button ergo meaningless words. (Mom, Security, Peace-through-War etc.) Then massacre the incumbent for excessive $-love, [oil]-love and loose morals. Dumbth cannot be an issue, it's an obv attack on the electorate. (Remember that ego-thing re reviewing one's own software design?) clearly, being AWOL from military service is not loose-enough morals. Hey! it's what got us where we are today.. No, it does not make any sense. If anyone knows an antidote - NOW is the time. (Nobel? A shrine built just For You? A new Bugatti?) (800 rack-mount Beowulf?) (A year off in Colorado with Lovins Institute?) (Sex - with the intelligent Concerned Starlet(s) of Your Choice) (or Stars.. if that's the way it is.)
Post #108,197 by johnu 7/2/03 12:00:51 PM Reply	Re: "restore their credibility"? Why should people who disagree with the warmongers have to buy into their agenda? They don't have too. They just aren't going to get elected when national security is an important issue to voters these days. Regards, John
Post #108,215 by ben_tilly 7/2/03 1:23:17 PM Reply	And to quote Clinton... The Republicans won't get elected when voters are saying, It's the economy, stupid. Personally I care a lot more about the ongoing destruction of our way of life to the profit of a few than I do about Bush's desire to redirect legitimate public outrage into the fulfilment of the hawks geopolitical domination fantasies. Eventually I think that the public will agree with me. I actually think a lot more than that - you may wish to read [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=107614\|http://z.iwethey.org...?contentid=107614] for perspective. Regards, Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #108,234 by jake123 7/2/03 3:47:04 PM Reply	see? --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------

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