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New It is neat, but your mom is right
Interest rates can't fall much further, so people can't continue having incentives to refinance.

Sorry,
Ben
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New Yeah but...
How about Banks paying you for your choosing THEM and they pay you for your load ather than us paying them interest...

So a $100K House actually costs me $98K ... I like that, but in reality.

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New Wondered that one for years
WTF should I pay for the "privilege" of selecting Your bank to receive the automatic gains from this contract? VS: Anyone Else !? [assuming creditworthiness is not an issue].

Similarly - (and I Know about THIS badminton racquet in detail) Title Insurance is the longest running patently unNecessary con-game of all the Real Estate just plain BS. Real Estate is The Babbitt symbol of codified larceny - because in the past, few people ever went through the laundering more than a couple times. And few Realtors (unlike my honorary Jewish Mother, Trude: one of the Two Honest Realtors in the country. I assume there was another?) would actively and informedly scan the docs for just the sort of hanky panky mentioned above.

I'd think that, especially with all the people doing this stuff as often as every few years: Some of these scams would begin to be Noticed. I'd think..


Ashton
New title insurance is for extortion insurance
having worked as a deed examiner for the State of Alaska there is ways that local land records might not reflect an adverse claim of title. Unrecorded quitclaims to 3rd parties, liens from judgements filed in other states against that property which are not filed locally etc. They know the money is for free 99.9% of the time but its that 1% ya gotta watch out for.
thanx,
bill
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]

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As the Poets have mournfully sung.
Death takes the innocent young,
The rolling in money,
the screamingly funny,
And those who are very well hung.
W.H. Auden
New they are a service bureau, the money
they get paid from you to act as a collection point for your actual lender, fannie mae hud etc. (most of the time)
thanx,
bill
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]

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As the Poets have mournfully sung.
Death takes the innocent young,
The rolling in money,
the screamingly funny,
And those who are very well hung.
W.H. Auden
New Title Companies
Are supposed to:

1. Sell a title insurance policy that promises to pay damages if the house is sold with unpaid debts or if the ownership of the property ever falls into questoin (like if Indians show up with a 150 year old contract that they claim was null and void, and think they can prove it). Like box says, less than 1% chance, but very valuable if it ever happens to you. It turns out that you, the seller, sign a document guaranteeing to pay any "unknown" liens against the property, if the lien was claimed to be during the period you owned the home. So, unless it's one of those 100 year old things, or the seller disappears off the map, I don't think title insurance buys you much, for the $1000 it costs.

2. Of course, if you sell a title policy like this, then you want to research the property to at least get all the claims against the property for the current century (and maybe the 1900s, too). For this, you charge a fee.

3. Finally, Title Company is supposed to be the "unbiased" settlement house for all parties involved in the transactions. They pay the old lender, get funds from the new lender, pay the real estate agents, etc. This is the role of the Title Company I'm most upset about. In the last two real estate transactions I have done ( buying a new home, refinancing a home ), the LENDER has basically decided the Title Company choice. In both transactions, it is clear that the Title Company didn't give a damn about us, and clearly was biased toward the interests of the lender. In the last re-fi attempt in April, the Title Company never DEMANDED that the lender fund the loan, even though the loan had closed weeks before. Finally, after about 4 weeks of hand wringing, the lender declared the loan "dead", and offered us a new loan, at a lower rate, with some funds refunded. We took it. But, the Title Company clearly subrogated their responsibility as the "clearing house" for the loan, to the interests of the lender.
New on settlement agencies
Dunno how you do it in Texas but when I sold my shack in Florida I picked the settlement law firm. They did all the getdones efficiently, on time and for $350.00. The title Ins was $500. In Alaska the Bank did the closing in their mortgage department.
thanx,
bill
will work for cash and other incentives [link|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html|skill set]

questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]

As the Poets have mournfully sung.
Death takes the innocent young,
The rolling in money,
the screamingly funny,
And those who are very well hung.
W.H. Auden
New Texas
You close at the Title Company, the title company is supposed to be an "unbiased agent", providing the title policy and disbursing funds to the correct parties.

What really happens is that the Title Companies and banks are really "tight", and the bank or builder's bank usually choses the Title Company.

My title policy for re-fi on $134K was $1134. I was supposed to get a 20% discount from that because the original was 5 years old, but the lender told me that if the title company reduced the policy by 20%, then they would add that cost back into my re-fi fees. Jerks.

I hate lenders. That's why my new pledge is to attempt to be debt free (except mortgage) by 2004, and maybe completely debt free including mortgage by maybe 2010 or 2011?

Glen Austin
     New Business Idea -- I think it's cool - (gdaustin) - (8)
         It is neat, but your mom is right - (ben_tilly) - (7)
             Yeah but... - (folkert) - (6)
                 Wondered that one for years - (Ashton) - (1)
                     title insurance is for extortion insurance - (boxley)
                 they are a service bureau, the money - (boxley) - (3)
                     Title Companies - (gdaustin) - (2)
                         on settlement agencies - (boxley) - (1)
                             Texas - (gdaustin)

Laugh it up, fuzzball.
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