C'mon, it's not that bad

Post #106,965 by deSitter 6/23/03 9:03:17 AM Reply	C'mon, it's not that bad There are better beers. There are worse. Mostly, it's bland. -drl
Post #106,978 by Andrew Grygus 6/23/03 12:12:48 PM Reply	Yes it is. True, Coors is worse, but that sure isn't saying much. Budweiser is just plain awful. To quote an Anheiser Bush brewmaster, "Our objective is to remove as much beer flavor from the water as possible without causing a consumer rebellion". Anheiser Bush has been attempting for years to buy out the community owned brewery in Budejovice, Czech Republic, that controls the Budweiser trademark in many countries. A few years ago they threw a huge party for the town to build support for the purchase, but made a horrible mistake. They served unlimited free samples of their product. The only local comment found printable in a family publication was, "This isn't beer - this is lemonade!". I recently blundered purchasing beer at Trader Joe's. I generally buy a few brands of Czech, Danish and Central American beer for $3.99 a sixpack. Grabbed an unpriced sixpack of an unfamiliar Czech beer and was shocked to be charged $6.99 for it. It was Czechvar from the town of Budejovice. I am now aware that there actually is beer worth $6.99 a sixpack. Anheiser Bush hasn't a snowflake's chance in hell in that town. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #107,054 by Ashton 6/23/03 5:42:08 PM Reply	re Joe's:__didja czech out the $2 Charles Shaw Merlot, Cab ?
Post #107,063 by Andrew Grygus 6/23/03 7:18:38 PM Reply	I've had some . . . . Cab, Merlot and Chard. Good for the price, but I wasn't real thrilled with it overall. The Chard in particular is very weak in boquet and complexity, but as cheap cooking wine it'll do. This stuff has had so much publicity the yuppies are carying it out several cases at a time. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #107,347 by mhuber 6/25/03 11:28:01 PM Reply	The irony, though is that American "Sex in a Canoe" Lager is technicaly a very difficult beer. It would take a brewer far more skilled than myself (and I brew fine, fine, ale) to pull it off. It would also take the desire to do such a thing... SIAC: F*king close to water. ---- Sometime you the windshield, sometime you the bug...
Post #107,548 by Andrew Grygus 6/27/03 12:16:04 PM Reply	Clarification, courtesy Wall Stree Journal Cezchvar IS the Budvar brewed in Budejovice, but is renamed in the U.S. due to an obvious trademark dispute with Anheiser Bush over any beer name starting with "Bud". Budejovice is Budweis in German, thus beer from their is "Budweiser". [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #107,551 by deSitter 6/27/03 12:29:46 PM Reply	Re: Clarification, courtesy Wall Stree Journal Thought there was a beer called "Budvar" in there somewhere. Whether or not you like Bud, Adolphus Busch invented the idea of a "beer network", a distribution system, allowing inexpensive beer to be had just about anywhere. [link\|http://www.anheuser-busch.com/history/story.html\|http://www.anheuser-...istory/story.html] Augie Jr. also saved the Cardinals for St. Louis, about the same time the Browns departed. -drl
Post #106,988 by a6l6e6x 6/23/03 1:01:08 PM Reply	In all fairness, the brewery in St Louis doesn't make... crap alone. I had a tour of it in July of 1974 and sampled some stuff at the end. It was quite refreshing. I'm not sure it was Bud or some "premium" brand though. My standards do drop in warm weather. Alex "Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life." -- Eric Hoffer
Post #107,018 by deSitter 6/23/03 2:55:03 PM Reply	Re: In all fairness, the brewery in St Louis doesn't make... All beer suffers when it has to last very long in shipment (more than a week or so). We get fresh Bud from about 1 mile away, and it's quite drinkable. As I said, it's not "conoisseur" beer, but you can swill it on a hot day. Personally, I long for the old Miller formula, or a strong Canadian or German beer (Warsteiner with full alcohol content was good). -drl
Post #107,039 by lister 6/23/03 4:33:56 PM Reply	Not all Canadian beer is good As far as I'm concerned the two big breweries Molson's and Labatt's make beer that is only slightly better than the likes of Coors or Bud. Go with the smaller companies if you want something good. Kawartha Lakes, Algonquin, Amsterdam, McAuslan, Unibroue are all good. I actually don't like the taste of normal beer so I gravitate towards fruity or lighter tasting beers. My favourites are KLB Raspberry Wheat, Amsterdam Natural Blonde and Dutch Amber, St. Ambroise Apricot Wheat (McAuslan) and Algonquin Honey Brown. The raspberry and apricot ones are more beer than fruit unlike the Belgian fruity beers which are also still good. I did finally try a Belgian chocolate beer a couple of months ago and it was surprisingly good. Too bad it is only available in bottle here. :-( lister
Post #107,058 by jb4 6/23/03 7:03:14 PM Reply	Great minds... Personally, I long for the old Miller formula, or a strong Canadian or German beer (Warsteiner with full alcohol content was good). With you there, Ross. The only two beers that ever see the inside of my 'fridge are Moosehead and Warsteiner. jb4 "We continue to live in a world where all our know-how is locked into binary files in an unknown format. If our documents are our corporate memory, Microsoft still has us all condemned to Alzheimer's." Simon Phipps, SUN Microsystems

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