Open challenge to Senator Bigmouth

Post #106,444 by jb4 6/18/03 1:30:42 PM Reply	Open challenge to Senator Bigmouth Dear ~~Lorrin~~Orrin- I am not a "cracker", nor do I currently possess any of the skills that would be considered "cracker" skills. Furthermore, I do not download music from the various peer-to-peer networks that appear to be the current bane of your existance. I am, however, a highly skilled and experienced software engineer. I also own computers that are, from time to time, connected to the Internet. Since, in your ignorance and need for media attention, you have threatened me with "destruction" of a personal asset and tool that I use daily in pursuit of my lawful vocation and livelyhood, let me state for the record that: Should I, or any of my associates, find that said assets and/or tools have been compromised in any way due to actions taken by you to foment such compromise, I shall acquire those "cracker" skills I current lack, and serially and mercilessly apply these new skills to those who would be responsible for such "destruction". You want a war? Be careful what you ask for, Senator...you might get it. (And you don't want to fuck with a pissed-off engineer.) jb4 "We continue to live in a world where all our know-how is locked into binary files in an unknown format. If our documents are our corporate memory, Microsoft still has us all condemned to Alzheimer's." Simon Phipps, SUN Microsystems
Post #106,574 by orion 6/19/03 3:50:38 PM Reply	All I would do is sue them if they destroyed my hard drive because they thought I had some copyrighted songs on my system. How can they tell what is legit and what is not anyway? Maybe I bought the CD and ripped the songs into MP3 format? Maybe I bought the MP3 from a music web store?
Post #106,591 by jb4 6/19/03 5:54:50 PM Reply	Who's "them"? How would you know who to sue...after all, your machine is "destroyed" (quite possibly physically). Whatever evidence of the attack that might have been left behind is gone, or at least unaccessible. And what would be your basis? Assuming (and it is a BIG assumption) that you could actually track down who was responsible, the suit would be deemed to be without merit, for lack of basis, as the "destruction" would be legal if Senator Fuckwit has his way. jb4 "We continue to live in a world where all our know-how is locked into binary files in an unknown format. If our documents are our corporate memory, Microsoft still has us all condemned to Alzheimer's." Simon Phipps, SUN Microsystems
Post #106,602 by orion 6/19/03 7:34:19 PM Reply	Re: Who's "them"? How thorough would the destruction be? Can recovery tools be used to recover logs? If the destruction was complete, there will be no evidence that pirated files were on the computer even if they did exist or not. Also what about false positives? You should be able to go to the ISP and get a log of the last IP packets sent to the machine before the destruction of the data and trace the IP back to the sender. But you will know who is responsible because they are supposed to warn you first before they do something like that.
Post #106,665 by jb4 6/20/03 10:38:45 AM Reply	Heh...you put too much faith... ...in the magnanomosity[sic?] of these vermin. What was the line from one of our members' sigs?: "Man never does anything so gleefully that in the name of Religion"...or something like that. To actually expect such vermin to follow the rules is to truly view the world through rose colored glasses. And what makes you think that an ISP would give you "a log of the last IP packets sent to the machine before the destruction" anyway? Don't you think that the law enabling such destruction would be written to 1) indemnify anybody delivering the payload, including ISPs and 2) prohibit the deliverers from identifying the source of the payload. It's the 21st century, Norm. Please try to catch up.... jb4 "We continue to live in a world where all our know-how is locked into binary files in an unknown format. If our documents are our corporate memory, Microsoft still has us all condemned to Alzheimer's." Simon Phipps, SUN Microsystems

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