Post #104,442
6/2/03 3:53:01 AM
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Hopping mad
So I'm trying to compile ftape 4.x - (why is this not in the kernel?) and
I CAN'T COMPILE with the default gcc 3.3 configuration - preprocessor errors.
I can't add any options to the Makefile that causes the pp to act as before.
So parsing the macros seems impossible. Nothing I try works. The docs were
written by a moron and so are chaotic and incomprehensible.
Is there an option (-emulate-2.9.x)? Fsck no!
Is there an environment variable GCC-MODE=2.9.x? Fsck no!
In other words, it looks like the army of GNU mediocrities is finally
ruining even the compilation environment.
So, it appears I must install and maintain a COMPLETELY SEPARATE GCC 2.9.x
environment to use my tape drive. This is MORONIC.
-drl
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Post #104,449
6/2/03 7:22:21 AM
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ftape?
What kind of tape drive are we talking about?
This is not an error report, this is a whine. Distro? Script(1) output? Compilation steps?
And, as always with Free Software, repeat after me:
File a bug
Fix it
or Fuck off
Peter
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Post #104,479
6/2/03 9:24:08 AM
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Re: ftape?
Iomega Ditto Max. Yes, it's a piece of shit, but it works enough to make an archival copy and I can restore from a diskette.
Needs ftape 4.x - current kernel is 3.x. This should be a matter of typing "make", but 1) there are a lot of shitty C programmers who are too damn lazy to do ANSI C and who abuse the preprocessor 2) there are a lot of shitty C programmers who have had years to build a decent C/C++ combined environment and have failed. There should be a 1-shot option to make gcc 3.x behave exactly like 2.x (by calling 2.x if necessary).
-drl
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Post #104,482
6/2/03 9:32:19 AM
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Re: ftape?
Actually, I'd be hopping mad, too, if that were my backup hardware :-)
I have a deep and abiding hatred of all non-SCSI tape devices, with a special place in my heart for the twisted individual who dreamt up the Travan system.
Peter
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Post #104,488
6/2/03 9:44:23 AM
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Re: ftape?
Yes, it is a POS among POSes - but it was free, and it DOES work - ever so slowly. The only value of the thing is to make a 6-monthly snapshot of my work system.
-drl
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Post #105,249
6/7/03 3:25:19 PM
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Re: ftape?
Ross wrote:
Yes, it is a POS among POSes - but it was free, and it DOES work - ever so slowly.
To paraphrase JWZ, [link|http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/linux-info/tape-backup|Travan drives] are free if your sanity has no value.
Rick Moen
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If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.
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Post #104,461
6/2/03 8:14:47 AM
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Is there a kgcc or a kcc?
RedHat did that a few versions ago because the GCC they wanted to use wasn't approved for kernel compiling...
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Post #104,480
6/2/03 9:26:21 AM
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Re: Is there a kgcc or a kcc?
Nope - this is SuSE 8.2 and the one and only C compiler is gcc 3.3.
The only fix is to install gcc 2.9.x in a chrooted environment - ugh. Or use cygwin as a cross compiler - triple ugh.
-drl
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Post #104,467
6/2/03 8:42:39 AM
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That is not moronic that is the nature of the biz
If something compiles under x but not y maintain both. Have done that since dos 3.0
thanx,
bill
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Post #104,484
6/2/03 9:35:38 AM
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This is part of the...
Thing I have been pointing to for 7 months Ross.
Please go back and think about the thing I have posted. I see your point, will you see mine?
And about F-Tape v4.x, with v3.something in the kernel. Well, you see there is this little thing called regression testing, QA and of course the Linus factor. I am suspecting it is a combo of all three things...
Appears to be in 2.5.x... but then again, you won't even take the time to read what I just read about the whole F-Tape thing.
There is a meaning to everything here Ross, not just what is obvious. Take a better look and you might see what I speak about.
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Post #104,487
6/2/03 9:42:34 AM
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Re: This is part of the...
What?? I never remember you talking about f-tape - care to be a little less obscure?
What's the issue here? It looks to me like a simple crackdown on the former laxity. So why change now? And if you want to do a crackdown, why not have an "--ultra-pedantic" option?
I have not kept up with gcc development, other that to be disgusted when each new release of my distro of choice fails to have a valid compilation environment.
-drl
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