Saw nothing but naked contempt - and a great amount of personal effort, evidenced by his browline and body language: not to strangle this Texas bumpkin with his own necktie. (That's just a guess, but the distress was Palpable. Our Yahoo would never think to actually look with comprehension, at whomever he imagines *he* is playing-for-a-fool, of course. Gawd this man is despicable.)


Ashton

Let the Economy CRASH. Any amount of $-loss is a fair price to become rid of this cancer on the asshole of all humanity.. and to be chastened for our perfidy and ovine acquiescence.

is the relationship to Karl Rove, Wolfowitz and Kristol:
Are they puppetmasters or simply a collective-Svengali?

It is evident that his ability to 'think on his feet' is limited. The deer-in-headlights 9/11-day activities have yet to be expressed beyond suspect innuendo - whereas the election fraud in FL has become clear enough to act on, were there a democracy handy.

So I'll agree that 'bumpkin' has the wrong connotation; he is far more dangerous than a naif; he is a Born Again Crusader, and admits as much.. if you phrase it more amicably.

IMO he gets no 'credit' for the strategy of others; he gets full marks however for every extemporaneous, insulting remark which has alienated much of the world and most-all former 'allies'. His Lord of the flies persona will require years to undo .. and if he plans to invade Iran next --

Well - -


Ashton
side-bet on that next election there?

former-Republic. Ben Franklin, when asked by a stander-by, on leaving the Constitutional Convention:

"What did we get?", replied,
"A Republic.. if you can keep it."

I'll take your bet, Dan. I'm not impressed either way by a mob willing to run, propaganda-scared right into The New American Century Neo-conmen - in full panic about Terrorists under the bed / the Weekly Scheduled Orange Alerts\ufffd. The majority is almost always both gutless and rudderless. But I'll bet upon this noble experiment surviving despite the current crop of despicably ignorant Yahoos who prefer the likes of Rove, Ashcroft, Wolfowitz and Kristol - to decent human beings; even to the founders of the Nation. 'Karma' - won't give the US a clue, but something will.

WTF - go ahead and help vote-in your Neo Garrison State. The blueprint's on the Web (cf above). No surprises there. What's four more years of alienating the rest of the planet? (and whatever coalition inevitably rises to counter the US Emperor)

10-15 years from now, when your kids ask you what you did during the pre-Dubya-Dubya-III war desolation - I'm sure you'll think of something. Maybe 'John Dewey Pragmatism', for a start. We Could: We Did; Never mind the Means. Or what we have become. Sorry, son; my head was all fucked up by Slogans.


Youth is wasted on the young,


Ashton

Causality rehashed?
Or just an automatic straw-man labelled moi, for convenience.

Of course 'George Bush the man' is somewhat irrelevant; had he not been found to be both malleable and to possess a Famous Name to boot; financed massively and groomed by the associates of the same Karl Rove who got him into Texas Governorship -- someone else would have received the personal re-make. It's about credo not personality (except as election ploy, always). D'Oh.

As to "being in control of events" - you may not accuse me of a naivete I thought you had also outgrown. Nor even of the insouciance which imagines that the US of '03 is anything like what is portrayed to the tykes, in the civics books we used to have in schools. Polished spin du jour notwithstanding.

It's unclear if you have even troubled to look up the material on the Project for a New American Century website - for a mere start. It appears that you haven't read even that. Or noted its officers VS a Cabinet roster, then compared events.

What 'We' as voting citizens are responsible for, on the level of democratic theory (and at very least) is:

1) Not! achieving perfection in a choice of leader, based upon his/her previously stated axioms. We have an Executive branch: that the micromanagement (and impossibility thereof) of 'consensus by the multitudes' is somewhat abated. We take-the-word. We advance a trust - initially. It's all we can do - at first.

2) But when, after the fact of Leadership attained (leaving aside the peculiarly bogus means re the one at hand, for the moment) - it becomes apparent that a new Leader has become a zealot, with an agenda (public and unstated, both) which is motivated by personal religiosity and is actually a creation of a (now identifiable) group of others unelected to any post, then

3) Under Our Constitution, citizens are obligated to act in opposition: on as many levels as you want to parse that meaning. Unless.. most citizens agree with the never discussed, never-debated new agenda for the conduct of the Nation [??]

And since the Fourth Estate / imaginary Fourth Branch of US Government, presumed to inform the populace somewhat truthfully, after parsing - is currently owned by a group with similar aims to the present I-say cabal - so has the nation lost a vital part of its functioning requirement. It is no longer "informed" but propagandized. Thus are 'we' in an alt-mode; something for which there is neither a formula to solve, nor an easy slogan to encapsulate. Nor is there a quick-fix, though rapid action appears to be a necessary next step - for those who do not buy into the unstated agenda now unfolding.

Your changing the scale to Centuries - and expressing a fondness for Chaos Theory may seem to be the root of our disagreement - to you, but I'm not biting. Your support for the 'Means Justify Ends' approach to the world's attempts to retain a semblance of lawfulness among nations - follows from neither fork, and you were stationed even, within a country which had adopted the same non-ethic: and you witnessed the result.

If you remain ignorant of the agenda being fulfilled, precisely as diagrammed at site above - then you are a lazy fool by your own lights. If you noticed the agenda limned and now embrace it, then you are a supporting member (and become my lawful enemy): one who condones nay celebrates the recent propaganda success (re the bogus WMDWMD mantra used daily - and still!) and much else of the machinations thus far. Those include: systematic reversal of Citizen Rights basic to the Constitution - nullification thereof, precisely! Or would you care to debate IF.. such has occurred? Too!

If that is the case for you: so would you have embraced Mein Kampff, a similar Project for a New German Century/Millennium, and also based upon Might Makes Right: that regime's methods for dealing with all others on the planet were equally based upon fabricated "threats to Itself" (and as re Czech. - flat bogus from the outset) and finally - utter disdain for the thoughts or rights of any other nation. Because Germany Had the Military Power.

"Catch more flies with honey?" WTF do you think you know about a Wolfowitz or a Rove; and what-all have you not been noticing since 9/11? You might as well have been on a steady diet of worldnetdaily and Rush, whom you equate for analytical abilities with.. Molly Ivins, say (!!) Hey Dan: meet marlowe.

Can your enviro at academe have morphed you into another Nintendo-Eloi, now fully embracing the slogans of this cabal? What snapped? Ya useta be a contender..



Pshaw.

Ashton

You're on. I can read the tea leaves as well as the other Gypsies. I just happen to believe the we shall be saved from our insouciance - that which demonstrates that we fully deserve a Dubya, Rove and the entourage of Brown Shirts behind this Emperor.

I even imagine I know 'how'.

(Logic.. is never enough, y'know?)


Ashton