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Post #10,428
by ChrisR
9/24/01 5:56:40 PM
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New Speech != action...
I find this comparison of Falwell and bin Laden to be as stupid as Falwell's correlation of the tragedy with America's moral failing.

All it demonstrates is that one group of humans can pronounce another group as "evil", without needing a religious crutch upon which to lean. Simple innuendo and prognistication will suffice.
Post #10,435
by Ashton
9/24/01 6:44:43 PM
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New The comparison is about 'mindset' only, not probability
of equally horrendous actions. The Will to enforce your fantasies on others is ever limited by the Power to do so.

As Mike observes - Falwell et al, currently lack the power to achieve that which (they have said repeatedly) they Know - is what Muricans Ought to Do = What God Wants\ufffd

No one can describe *what* floats around inside those pretty-little heads; I certainly do not claim to. Nor are we likely to find out. (If it's OK to bash gays, kill medical folk to save zygotes - what Else is it OK to kill, for God?) Nor are any 'social contracts' among humans valid - when you Speak for God. In such minds.

But as to their Certainties? Just listen to them a while. Yes, I see them as interchangeable in mindset; only the power is (currently) different.



Ashton
Check out Father Couglan, in the '20s, '30s, on radio - Murican home-grown wannabe Ayatollahs is *nothing new*
     The reason for the terrorist attacks (in a nutshell) - (brettj) - (37) - Sept. 21, 2001, 11:44:15 PM EDT
         Perhaps he simply likes explosions and death - (tablizer) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2001, 12:36:26 AM EDT
             Too Much American Movie? - (gdaustin) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2001, 09:33:54 AM EDT
                 "Gironimo"? - (tablizer) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2001, 04:13:02 PM EDT
                     Some say he left at least 4 days ago... - (Another Scott) - Sept. 23, 2001, 04:35:07 PM EDT
         New O'Reilly book? Lemming on the cover?..............Sorry -NT - (Another Scott) - (8) - Sept. 22, 2001, 10:19:33 AM EDT
             How does the destruction of Buddhist shrines by the Taliban - (brettj) - (7) - Sept. 22, 2001, 03:51:26 PM EDT
                 It's complicated. - (Another Scott) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2001, 11:08:54 PM EDT
                     I thought that was simple... - (Simon_Jester) - (5) - Sept. 23, 2001, 09:57:50 AM EDT
                         Let's take this a bit farther. - (brettj) - (2) - Sept. 23, 2001, 11:14:42 AM EDT
                             Not sure what you mean... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2001, 05:14:16 PM EDT
                                 The Afghan tribes didn't destroy the idols until the Taliban - (brettj) - Sept. 23, 2001, 05:57:07 PM EDT
                         Real tolerant of other religions? - (orion) - (1) - Oct. 24, 2001, 04:11:22 PM EDT
                             Do you mean like.. - (Ashton) - Oct. 24, 2001, 04:52:07 PM EDT
         Reasons for terrorism - (Ric Locke) - (6) - Sept. 22, 2001, 09:49:53 PM EDT
             But, wait! There is Sadam, the Saladin, 1990 model. - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 22, 2001, 10:23:33 PM EDT
             Re: Reasons for terrorism - (gtall) - Sept. 23, 2001, 09:09:15 AM EDT
             Thanks. This answer's part of my question below. - (brettj) - Sept. 23, 2001, 01:00:57 PM EDT
             Re: Reasons for terrorism - a pretty good QAD summary - (dmarker2) - Sept. 24, 2001, 04:05:19 AM EDT
             Re: Reasons for terrorism - a pretty good QAD summary - (dmarker2) - Sept. 24, 2001, 04:31:39 AM EDT
             Re: Reasons for terrorism - (bluke) - Sept. 24, 2001, 07:24:44 AM EDT
         The pieces to the puzzle are falling into place. - (brettj) - (16) - Sept. 23, 2001, 10:07:01 AM EDT
             How do the Jewish people fit into the picture? - (brettj) - (15) - Sept. 23, 2001, 11:11:15 AM EDT
                 Osama bin Laden quotes. - (a6l6e6x) - (14) - Sept. 23, 2001, 02:41:30 PM EDT
                     Thanks. Here is a LA Times link. - (brettj) - (3) - Sept. 23, 2001, 03:32:27 PM EDT
                         Re: And therein lies the biggest dilemma - (dmarker2) - (2) - Sept. 23, 2001, 09:47:02 PM EDT
                             This is starting to look like a Hitler repeat? - (brettj) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2001, 10:37:11 PM EDT
                                 Uh, that's not how it was, is it? - (CRConrad) - Sept. 27, 2001, 03:32:17 AM EDT
                     Re: Osama bin Laden quotes - the US shame ??? - (dmarker2) - (9) - Sept. 24, 2001, 03:30:11 AM EDT
                         Problem not confined to Islam: organized religion. - (Ashton) - (7) - Sept. 24, 2001, 03:55:19 PM EDT
                             Ashton, don't be afraid to include the Zionists... - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Sept. 24, 2001, 04:17:35 PM EDT
                                 But not someone's else wives and children - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2001, 04:55:28 PM EDT
                                     Re: But not someone's else wives and children - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 26, 2001, 04:02:08 AM EDT
                             So, your position is that... - (ChrisR) - (3) - Sept. 24, 2001, 05:22:38 PM EDT
                                 Only if it becomes profitable in the US environment - (mhuber) - (2) - Sept. 24, 2001, 05:31:23 PM EDT
                                     Speech != action... - (ChrisR) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2001, 05:56:40 PM EDT
                                         The comparison is about 'mindset' only, not probability - (Ashton) - Sept. 24, 2001, 06:44:43 PM EDT
                         Other Osama ignoring - (wharris2) - Sept. 26, 2001, 08:45:27 AM EDT

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