Post #1,042
7/7/01 1:22:05 AM
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Opera for OS/2!
[link|http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/20010704.html|Opera for OS/2 Beta!]
All I can say - and I'm sure there will be echoes in here - is "about bloody time!"
Wade.
"All around me are nothing but fakes
Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #1,044
7/7/01 3:44:07 AM
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Oh well, it ran for a little while.
Kinda cranky, but it worked OK if you got used to it, but then I tried to copy a url from the clipboard and it went down hard - so hard it won't start any more. I'll try it again after the next time I reboot - maybe it'll work then (but that might not be for days).
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Post #1,047
7/7/01 3:59:26 AM
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OK, so I got curious . . .
I rebooted. Nope. It's dead. Don't run no more (Illegal Operation at startup). Well, no loss, I couldn't use it anyway until it's for sale so I could turn off the tool bar and that horid advertising window. So much for beta testing.
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Post #1,082
7/8/01 2:15:08 AM
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Didja file a bug report?
Having filed bug reports for several versions, they do read them and act on them. If it's a particularly pernicious one they are having trouble pinning down they'll email you back and ask for copies of relevant files (they'll tell you which ones they want) off your machine so they can figure it out.
Wade.
"All around me are nothing but fakes
Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #1,114
7/8/01 7:00:45 PM
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Major disappointment
It requires Odin and WarpIn. Neither of those are installed here and Odin will most certainly *not* be installed, ever.
I will not install anything that allows win32 apps to run on, or otherwise "infect", my OS/2 system. If I wanted win32, I'd go over to Windoze and stay there. The same goes for VmWare and WINE on Linux.
All I can say - and I'm sure there will be echoes in here - is "about bloody time!"
AFAIC, Opera for OS/2 doesn't exist as long as it requires Odin. Which is kind of what I suspected all along. Pity....
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Post #1,123
7/8/01 8:55:50 PM
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Be daring.
File it as a bug :-)
Besides, I thought Odin was the support library for apps "translated" from Win32? If it was a real Win32 API layer, then the normal Win32 Opera would work, wouldn't it?
Wade.
"All around me are nothing but fakes
Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #1,128
7/8/01 9:37:48 PM
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No thank you
My understanding is that Odin has the ability to run win32 apps under OS/2. In fact, AFAIK, that's its whole reason for being. If that's incorrect, then please enlighten me.
I have absolutely *no* desire to run win32 apps on OS/2. I will not even chance having anything so prone to security leaks and virii running on OS/2. That's what I have a Windoze partition for. ;-)
I saw a comment from someone on Usenet that said that without Odin there would be no Opera for OS/2. Personally, I prefer to treat that as a sign that there will never be a true Opera for OS/2.
If this is the way things are going to go (tying new OS/2 apps to Odin), then I can clearly see that my transistion to Linux will have to be accelerated. As much as Linux is certainly no OS/2, it's becoming just about the only choice left. I certainly don't have much desire to go over to the dark side. Been there, done that, didn't like it.
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Post #1,202
7/9/01 3:36:39 PM
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Need to run PE to run win32 apps
so virii and such would fail as the OS/2 program loader would abort on them.
Darrell Spice, Jr.
[link|http://home.houston.rr.com/spiceware/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
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Post #1,129
7/8/01 9:42:29 PM
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You see the Odin Catch-22 I see...
Odin was originally called Win32-OS2. It was originally designed to translate Win32 binary types and catch application calls to the Win32 libraries and implement that functionality in OS/2's 32-bit APIs. It was, in a way, rather like the Micrographix Mirrors library which came with OS/2 2.0 to let application writers "easily" produce apps for Win16 and OS/2. Mirrors and Win-OS2 (which ran Win3.x apps) made it easier for OS/2 users to run Windows apps, but helped kill native OS/2 development ("We don't need to produce a native OS/2 version because the Win16 version runs fine.").
Odin isn't complete. I don't know if it's missing functionality which would let it host Opera/Win32.
Mozilla/2 is looking pretty good (or was when I looked at it last). Opera's going to have trouble finding an OS/2 market, IMO.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #1,130
7/8/01 10:25:20 PM
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Re: You see the Odin Catch-22 I see...
In preparation for this reply, I just upgraded to Warpzilla 0.9.2 (was using build 022801). I've used Warpzilla for most of my browsing for at lest 8 months now, and it is quite good, but I feel Opera does have a place in OS/2, if it gets reasonably debugged. It's quite a nice brower (I used the Windows 3.1 version until it became too unstable under WinOS2 to use).
Yes, I'd strongly prefer a native OS/2 version, but it doesn't look like that's possible.
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