Post #103,934
5/29/03 4:52:20 AM
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Good Ideas are timeless! + >P1-166 search< question
Resurrecting a P1-133 for a friend's use. Has some IBM 1.5 GB C-drive and a 16 GB Maxtor - apparently designed for streaming video ['designed' ??]. I thought the 1.5 sounded like a stepper -from '96 though?- subjectively slow, running Beast-98 w/ 64 MB. SpinRite proved it: 26 mSec random access; half the Maxtor speed on burst test; 1/3 the speed on sustained xfer. (Maxtor clocked 12 mSec random) IBM OK for archiving and disconnecting.
So I used yours & Thane's neat scheme, wiped the Maxtor and moved the stuff over - though I decided on a nice acronym: /s/h/r/e/c/k/ after scoping the /? file. Worked like a charm for 10,0xx files. Tomorrow will do the swap. I noted that: if you just copy Xcopy32.exe (and .mod) to a floppy -- you get an attenuated switch listing, without the handy ones; guess you need a win32 api running for the fancy Boolean?
Thanks folks !! Saved lots of time. I bloody well didn't want to run through all that finding CDs, reconfig blah blah - when it has all the stuff needed for this minimal user, installed by an ept person.
If anybody has a Pentium1-166 CPU lying about, will pay in Euros or $.. (is there faster, for that pin-grid socket?) - I paid no attention to the 233s etc. so dunno when sockets got changed. Like to recapture the Ferrari Hayes Optima [RIP Hayes..] from this pedestrian use and stick in a Beast-modem card from somewhere; I imagine not a good plan for a P-133. Maybe not even for a -166?
PS ident - it's an ASUS P/I-P55TP4N mother, and a newer Promise Ultra33 HD ctrlr. (The IBM isn't ATA; Maxtor is) 4 slots filled with 16M 72-pin SIMMs, Fast Page or EDO. I doubt anyone has 4 x 32M ones lying about. On to Mozilla
Ashton Her previous: 486-66 with 14.4 modem.. hey, some people ain't got no dough. I love saving stuff from premature burial along with last November's crop; this one donated by a decent sort - a UQC here, even ;-)
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Post #103,962
5/29/03 10:36:55 AM
5/29/03 10:39:19 AM
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P166 is it.
Found a manual for that MB at: [link|http://wwwbzs.tu-graz.ac.at/edv/prodinfo/asus/p55tp4n.pdf|http://wwwbzs.tu-gra.../asus/p55tp4n.pdf] From it: Multi-Speed support: Supports one 75-166MHz Pentium CPU on a ZIF Socket 7. And no, don't happen to have a 166 laying around. Edit: Asus' website lists 2 BIOS updates for that MB: [link|http://www.asus.com/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=P/I-P55TP4|http://www.asus.com/...elName=P/I-P55TP4] You might consider applying them, could be Y2K mods.
----- Steve
Edited by Steve Lowe
May 29, 2003, 10:39:19 AM EDT
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Post #103,969
5/29/03 10:48:40 AM
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Lemme check tonight
Might have one (or 2!)
[link|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com|Joe]
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Post #103,971
5/29/03 10:58:43 AM
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XCOPY vs. XCOPY32
If Windows is running and you invoke xcopy, it calls on the Win32 API functions for copying. If Windows is not running, then it runs as a standalone DOS program. (This only applies to Win 9x/ME). The programs xcopy.exe and xcopy32.exe are identical.
-drl
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Post #104,166
5/30/03 4:54:24 PM
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Thanks - clearer.
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Post #103,974
5/29/03 11:18:11 AM
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Used P1-166 CPU
A local place near me, has one for sale for $6, or actually a whole batch of them. [link|http://www.pconramp.com/Amazing/items.asp?CartId=66790-ACCWARE-21DBPWK340&Cc=UPI&tpc=|http://www.pconramp....WK340&Cc=UPI&tpc=]
If that link does not work, try going to [link|http://www.pconramp.com/|http://www.pconramp.com/] and then browsing Used Processors and then choosing P1 processors.
I hope that this works for you and the person who you are replacing the CPU for.
"If you're going to cheat, cheat fair. If there's anything I hate it's a crooked crook!" -Moe Howard
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Post #104,161
5/30/03 4:50:24 PM
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Thanks, Norman.. gotta get tuit. Eventually.
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Post #104,160
5/30/03 4:48:33 PM
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.. but gang aft aglee
(sigh) Nomenclature Error: The IBM was the Good, fast HD; the Maxtor the dog - And.. for the first time ever, I witnessed (auditioned?) the dying of a drive, precisely after I'd (re-transferred) off the last useful bits among the detritus! Very next boot, prepping for a clean install of 98-lited SE: Promise ctrlr spins the little /_\\ thingie, lookin for What is? on that port; finally finds the ID and the Maxtor stone-head crunches and crunches and ultimately, GENERAL FAILURE! (Now a Valued employee of the DC Cabal, under Rummy).
As to the xfer: well, it was 98% ? successful; copied all the files (I wasn't willing to count..) and when swapped to Master: booted rapidly to a C:> repeatedly, using up my tolerance for HIMEM.SYS not found, esp. after I saw the diverse causes (and frequency of appearance) of this symptom, Googlewise. After a few stabs at adding the explicit Device command in config yada yada, being sure it WAS in fact THERE -- I took this as nature's way of reminding me that a clean 98-lite SE install is the *best* innoculation against the M$-OSPOS disease. RRR
Knoppix not an option for this user + eBay. (Which some Need - merely to feed selves in this Repo-trashed expiring economy; especially if they are *old* too. So don't knock it.) It's why I have to get this sucker running adequately, and all the detritus stripped out from the get-go.
Will have to try this dance again sometime, on a spare HD - nice puzzle, faking out BillyCo's studied, intricate attempts to make life hard for All, at All times.
Gawd what a MASSIVE Universal Waster of the Time for a Life - *ALL* Billyware was invented to BE! Few can afford to *pay* for the suffering entailed, so must buy the latest crap preinstalled, instead of repair: Billy AND bin-Laden both Won. (But Windoze we did to Ourselves)
Ashton Fuck You Billy, Bally and your ilk.
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Post #104,550
6/2/03 2:34:51 PM
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Ashton, are you still looking for the P-166?
I found one in a retired PC. Haven't tested it explicity, but AFAIK, the PC was still running when it was decommissioned. If you want it, drop me a note at scoenye@compaqnet.be
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Post #104,588
6/3/03 12:11:38 AM
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Thanks, yes. Note in the \ufffdther -
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