Well, I guess I don't have to hide this one any more...

Post #10,348 by inthane-chan 9/24/01 10:50:39 AM Reply	Well, I guess I don't have to hide this one any more... One of my first thoughts after the WTC incident was that they should ground all the cropdusters - and now somebody else has said why. I've still go a couple other ideas, but as before, I'm not saying them. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #10,356 by addison 9/24/01 11:56:27 AM Reply	Nah, has been thrashed out many places. Problem is, without cropdusters, there won't be a cotton crop this year. (And various other things they do, they stay very busy this time of year). So the cotton farmers go under. And the pilots with the cropdusters. But of course, its a problem - but more of a problem would be a regular plane dumping something (its not as obvious as a cropduster, for one). Disruption of the water supply is far easier, and causes a lot more hardship. I've still go a couple other ideas, but as before, I'm not saying them. Nothing personal, but I think they're ahead of ya. :) I really don't think you're capable of being mean enough to formulate a really, really, good terrorist plan. :) Addison
Post #10,358 by inthane-chan 9/24/01 12:02:31 PM Reply	Don't worry about that. Under my kind, caring veneer lurks the heart of a person who knows What Evil Men Do. And, like I said before, it's not so much that I'm afraid the induhviduals who might perpetrate such acts might get hold of this information - as I am afraid that my own government might decide that I'm a SOURCE of such information. Same goes for the rest of you. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Post #10,522 by kmself 9/26/01 7:05:30 AM Reply	Known threats are better than unknown ones I sincerely doubt you've got any scenarios that haven't been concieved of and/or discussed openly elsewhere. Security against terrorists is a lot like security online: it's easier to devise defenses against threats which are known (or realize which are not readily defended against) than to fight unknown bugaboos. I'd not fret about speaking out. One early conversation I had on this matter was that there are some structural similarities between terrorism and the free software movement: large numbers of largely independent cells. Actually, my comment was "now you know how Microsoft's felt -- trying to figure out where to strike agains the free software movement". There are also some key differences: for the most part, free software folk are white hats -- there's nothing inherently illegal (DMCA and SSSCA excepted) with what we're doing. We can communicate openly. The black hats can't. We should use our open communications channels as an advantage: we can cover more ground, more flexibly, than the black hats. Secrecy is ultimately, in many caces, a hinderance, not a help. Exception: specific, time-sensitive data. `-- Karsten M. Self [link\|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com\|kmself@ix.netcom.com] What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?`

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