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Post #102,680
by deSitter
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5/19/03 10:50:13 PM
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New Re: Indeed. This is mostly a "pilot error"
Yes - thing to worry about is the load shifting, because nothing was strapped down. Yes, it has happened - Miami, cargo jet, cargo shifted shortly after rotation and the plane went into a 60-70 degree nose up attitude, and stalled. Bad day. CVR indicates that the pilot was stunned and confused.

I'm sure commercial jets have to be able to get in the air with a full load and one or even two engine failures. I'd also guess they run them with small fuel margins to save a few pennies.
-drl
Post #102,681
by mmoffitt
5/19/03 10:52:09 PM
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New Fuel margins don't have to be big.
IFR flights require flight to destination, then alternate, with 30 minutes of fuel left when you land. You land a plane with less than 30 minutes left, you've got hell to pay - and maybe lose your ticket.
bcnu,
Mikem

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     Airlines have been underestimating our weight. - (inthane-chan) - (16) - May 13, 2003, 05:35:33 PM EDT
         So? I've been understimating my weight for years . . - (Andrew Grygus) - May 13, 2003, 05:56:33 PM EDT
         Everyone who's surprised, raise your fat little hands -NT - (drewk) - (1) - May 13, 2003, 06:06:36 PM EDT
             ROFL! -NT - (n3jja) - May 13, 2003, 09:16:14 PM EDT
         What's scary is... - (Another Scott) - (12) - May 13, 2003, 07:10:14 PM EDT
             Then it really WAS cockpit error - as mmoffitt - (Ashton) - (3) - May 13, 2003, 07:46:17 PM EDT
                 Indeed. This is mostly a "pilot error" - (mmoffitt) - (2) - May 19, 2003, 10:41:30 PM EDT
                     Re: Indeed. This is mostly a "pilot error" - (deSitter) - (1) - May 19, 2003, 10:50:13 PM EDT
                         Fuel margins don't have to be big. - (mmoffitt) - May 19, 2003, 10:52:09 PM EDT
             guesswork - (cforde) - (3) - May 13, 2003, 11:55:02 PM EDT
                 GIYF - (kmself) - (2) - May 14, 2003, 12:53:53 AM EDT
                     WDYHASM - (drewk) - May 14, 2003, 07:46:49 AM EDT
                     nifty -NT - (cforde) - May 14, 2003, 05:56:29 PM EDT
             Uh-oh - (mhuber) - (3) - May 15, 2003, 12:10:14 AM EDT
                 Too subtle for me. Hint? -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - May 15, 2003, 01:22:39 AM EDT
                     Well if you want to know.... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - May 15, 2003, 01:36:28 AM EDT
                         I think Cleveland or New Orleans would have been apropos. ;) -NT - (Another Scott) - May 15, 2003, 08:43:42 AM EDT

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