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     Ars: Ubuntu 16.04 sounds pretty good. - (Another Scott) - (1)
         That's what I'm on, seems good so far - (drook)
     I'm too old for this shit - (drook) - (48)
         I know that song. - (static)
         Yeap. - (malraux) - (26)
             Me too. - (pwhysall) - (25)
                 Meh - (scoenye) - (24)
                     Too much configuration, not enough apps - (malraux) - (23)
                         That's about the size of it. - (pwhysall) - (20)
                             That's about what I figured - (scoenye) - (19)
                                 Eh, no. - (pwhysall) - (18)
                                     It's great for trying options - (drook) - (9)
                                         Speaking specifically to the photo angle - (pwhysall) - (8)
                                             My photo needs are lighter - (drook) - (7)
                                                 I feel ya - (pwhysall) - (6)
                                                     I assume PS has something for that? - (drook) - (5)
                                                         It looks like Nikon says you should fix it in the camera first. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                                             You definitely start there - (drook)
                                                             Nope - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                 Interesting. - (Another Scott)
                                                         Re: I assume PS has something for that? - (pwhysall)
                                     So, it is not ready for *your* desktop - (scoenye) - (7)
                                         LibreOffice 5.1 is very good, also too. - (Another Scott) - (6)
                                             It is - (scoenye) - (5)
                                                 I haven't used it in a while - (hnick) - (4)
                                                     I have used Draw for various things, but not that. - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                         Looks like it might be useful. - (hnick) - (1)
                                                             Sounds good. Remember - LibreOffice runs on Winders and MacOS too. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                     Never used the office suites for that - (scoenye)
                         True - (Steve Lowe)
                         That about sums it up. - (static)
         I have one for experimention. Hane not booted it in a month -NT - (boxley)
         Proprietary video drivers? - (scoenye) - (10)
             Dunno yet, going to spend some more time on it tonight -NT - (drook) - (9)
                 Depending on the symptoms... - (scoenye) - (8)
                     "whining detractors" ;-) - (malraux) - (6)
                         At least I can get it to work again - (scoenye) - (5)
                             I don't use Windows. What's your point? -NT - (malraux) - (4)
                                 That they all have warts -NT - (scoenye) - (3)
                                     From a desktop perspective, Linux has more than OSX in my experience -NT - (malraux) - (2)
                                         As it so happens, I ended up getting a MacBook dropped in my lap last evening - (scoenye) - (1)
                                             EveryMac has lots of good info. - (Another Scott)
                     Already tried nuking the profiles, no luck -NT - (drook)
         I had a similar issue updating a machine a while ago. - (Another Scott) - (4)
             Win 7 to Win 10. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                 Yeah, yeah. We'll see. ;-) (Thanks.) -NT - (Another Scott)
             Got it running again. Lenovo Thinkpad T61. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 Battery life? What's that? - (drook)
         Success - (drook) - (1)
             :-) Woot! -NT - (Another Scott)
         You, me, and Danny Glover. -NT - (CRConrad)
     Grub2 zero day bug - Hit backspace 28 times... - (Another Scott) - (20)
         if they can get to your console you have more problems than that - (boxley) - (3)
             Been there for a while longer than 2012 - (scoenye) - (2)
                 Red China is behind it. - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                     Well, Netscreen was Chinese. Maybe someone got creative with git... -NT - (scoenye)
         Well, damn! - (a6l6e6x) - (15)
             Somebody needs to pay for it. :-( -NT - (Another Scott)
             ESR was wrong - (pwhysall) - (13)
                 It's the high notes - (drook) - (12)
                     Yeahbut... - (Another Scott) - (11)
                         Some insight, some questionable strategy - (drook) - (10)
                             Here's the thing: - (malraux) - (9)
                                 had one of those at a previous place, my last job as an FTE - (boxley)
                                 There is a connection, though - (drook) - (7)
                                     team the two tegether, that gets all of the I's dotted and leaps of faith dissected -NT - (boxley)
                                     I know more highly productive people who aren't toxic, however. - (malraux) - (5)
                                         Think about it from management's side - (drook) - (4)
                                             Different situation with this guy - (malraux) - (3)
                                                 But what about small teams? - (drook) - (2)
                                                     You do care about it. - (malraux) - (1)
                                                         One could argue that you should care *more* in small company cases. - (Another Scott)
     Using GRE tunnels on a Debian box? - (scoenye)
     Has anybody tried Ubuntu-Mate? - (hnick) - (3)
         My last VM was Mint13. Ran and updated fine. - (Another Scott) - (1)
             Lack of version upgrades turned me off. - (static)
         No guarantees with vanilla Debian anymore either - (scoenye)
     Mandriva shutting down - (lincoln) - (18)
         Sad, but some Linux consolidation is good. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         Linux desktop may get one more chance. - (Andrew Grygus) - (16)
             redhat already does that, hasn't slowed down their growth -NT - (boxley) - (6)
                 And RHEL, like Stella Artois, is reassuringly expensive, too. - (pwhysall) - (5)
                     Stella Artois, is not expensive - (boxley) - (4)
                         £4.80 a pint in London, yes it bloody is. - (pwhysall) - (3)
                             wow, draft here is $4 bottles $3.50 in bar 6 pack $8.99 at supermarket - (boxley) - (1)
                                 Can't argue with the methodology -NT - (pwhysall)
                             $8.41 cash price for a 4 pack of 14.9 oz cans here - (lincoln)
             Are you saying... - (pwhysall) - (8)
                 Vice versa for me. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                     You're hardly one of the drooling masses. - (pwhysall) - (4)
                         I don't think there's much market for the PC itself among the drooling masses. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                             Oh, there is - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                 ChromeBooks should be eating somebody's lunch. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                     My daughter's ChromeBook is a really nice piece of kit - (drook)
                 sorry os X is at least $600 dollars - (boxley) - (1)
                     Whev. -NT - (pwhysall)
     Debian Wheezy - (Andrew Grygus) - (17)
         Physical media is so last century -NT - (drook) - (11)
             Well, I'm just so last century. - (Andrew Grygus) - (10)
                 Quality service is so last century -NT - (drook)
                 8 GB USB Flash Drives? - (Another Scott) - (8)
                     Re: 8 GB USB Flash Drives? - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                         Dunno. Chicken and egg thing I guess. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                             Yes, I've thought of that. - (Andrew Grygus)
                     The catch is USB booting - (scoenye) - (4)
                         Really? That's weird and unfortunate. - (Another Scott) - (3)
                             Sadly so - (scoenye) - (2)
                                 FWIW, I installed ubuntu on this 16 month old Samsung laptop - (jake123) - (1)
                                     You may be on to something there ;-) -NT - (scoenye)
         Latest and greatest? Wheezy is retired. - (scoenye) - (1)
             Fortunately, my clients haven't heard of Jessie. - (Andrew Grygus)
         Re: Debian Wheezy - (pwhysall) - (2)
             maybe because it is the hyperv that is controlling the hardware directly -NT - (boxley)
             Why recompile? - (Andrew Grygus)
     RedHat/Centos wierd permissions. - (static) - (6)
         per standard security setup, /var/log/httpd is not world readable - (boxley) - (3)
             And that is pretty much the same on Debian - (scoenye)
             It's not? This is news to me! - (static) - (1)
                 in debug mode logs carry identifiable data -NT - (boxley)
         For the reset - check logrotate - (scoenye) - (1)
             Ooh. Wasn't aware logrotate could do that. Thanks! -NT - (static)
     completely out of ideas for rpm failures - (boxley) - (15)
         It's fucked - (pwhysall) - (6)
             went back 6 months same issue - (boxley) - (5)
                 Burn it in the car park then. - (pwhysall) - (4)
                     Have the PFY handle it -NT - (drook)
                     not driving back to North Dakota -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                         Pee. Eff. Why. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                             its north dakota all the pfy's are hiding behind the trees -NT - (boxley)
         filed under ygbfkm - (boxley) - (7)
             Glad you got it figured out! -NT - (Another Scott)
             Hope you find the culprit! -NT - (static)
             Who messes with the package management system? - (drook) - (4)
                 Someone who needs a punch in the face, that's who -NT - (pwhysall)
                 some of the larger tool makers that do automated rollouts and updates - (boxley) - (2)
                     See my previous reply -NT - (pwhysall) - (1)
                         :-) -NT - (boxley)
     Running GDM and Debian SID? - (folkert) - (2)
         Think that'll hit the Ubuntu 14.10 release? -NT - (drook) - (1)
             Already has... - (folkert)
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