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Post #99,112 by ben_tilly 4/28/03 4:27:16 PM Reply	Your last paragraph is wrong I personally have a playlist with over 3000 songs that I like on my computer. I ripped every one of them myself, from CDs that for the most part are sitting on the wall less than 3 feet from the computer. (A few are in knapsacks etc elsewhere.) Most of the CDs were purchased new from a local bookstore. Why do I have them on my computer? It is simple. First of all I own it, I see no reason to get another device to do what my computer already does perfectly well. Second, I like being able to pick and choose music. The computer makes that very convenient - a single song that I don't like on a CD can be eliminated while keeping the rest. Third, it is nice to be able to listen to a variety of music without changing CDs. Of course I don't play music at work. And I don't use file-sharing applications at home or work. But I think that having music on my computer is perfectly legitimate. And whether or not you think that I have a compelling reason for doing so, I certainly do, and it has been compelling enough for me both to do it and to expand my music collection several-fold because of the additional utility I derive. Cheers, Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #99,122 by SpiceWare 4/28/03 5:00:05 PM Reply	agreed I have a hacked [link\|http://www.adamlotz.com/iopener.html\|iopener] with a 30GB drive full of MP3s. I just boot it up and let it random play when I want to listen to some music. It's really handy for parties. It's no different than making "mix tapes" of music you already own. 99% of the music on my iopener is ripped from CDs that are stored on the other side of the room. The remainder comes from artists, such as [link\|http://freezepop.net\|Freezepop], who let you download tracks off their site. Darrell Spice, Jr. [link\|http://www.spiceware.org/cgi-bin/spa.pl?album=./Artistic%20Overpass\|Artistic Overpass]\n[link\|http://www.spiceware.org/\|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore
Post #99,152 by Andrew Grygus 4/28/03 6:50:41 PM Reply	Yes and No I am doing some rewriting in response to comments here, and that last paragraph is already being changed to reflect some of your concerns. My stuff normally starts a little extreme and then gets moderated as I re-read it a few times. In any case, your computer is yours, and you can do whatever you want on it. Since I am speaking to the business manager, it's not the employee's computer, it's owned by the business for business use, and it's the interests of the business that need protection. The business person has several problems here. One is the workload of the computer, which may or may not affect productivity. Another problem is inability to tell what content on the computer is legitimate and what is not, because s/he doesn't know where it came from. If the machine has a popular file-sharing program on it, the chances of copyright violation are very high. If it just has an mp3 player on it, then it's a much more open question, but the RIAA wouldn't be able to find it anyway. An additional problem is the adware / spyware, which tends to destabilize computers, often forcing a service call. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #99,188 by Silverlock 4/28/03 9:35:13 PM Reply	If it's a business computer, what is the need for an mp3 player? Most businesses will/should have a policy against this. You want music, bring in a radio/cd player. The computer is owned by the employer, they are liable for what happens in the workplace. If they let the workers use the company network to share files, who cares if the files are copywritten? That's a secondary issue. The bandwidth costs without a return are enough to put a stop to it. Or so I surmise most business folk would think if they understood the term "bandwidth costs". The world is only a simple place to the simple.
Post #99,200 by orion 4/28/03 11:58:44 PM Reply	MP3 players and businesses true most businesses will have a policy against MP3 players, file sharing, IM, chat programs, and other things. But some companies may allow them as long as they aren't abused. "Bill Gates cannot guarantee Windows, so how are you going to guarantee my safety?" -John Crichton to the Emperor of the Scarrans on [link\|http://www.farscape.com\|FarScape]
Post #99,281 by orion 4/29/03 12:38:16 PM Reply	Also some news items are in audio format either using Real Player, MP3, or some other audio format for keynote addresses amd other things. Which could be work related if you are researching new technology, etc. "Bill Gates cannot guarantee Windows, so how are you going to guarantee my safety?" -John Crichton to the Emperor of the Scarrans on [link\|http://www.farscape.com\|FarScape]
Post #99,205 by Steve Lowe 4/29/03 12:18:54 AM Reply	Files no, player yes. I don't store any mp3s on my work laptop, but I do have several CDs full of mp3s that I play regularly with it. Besides, is it even possible to get rid of Windows Media Player? ;) ----- Steve
Post #99,222 by Silverlock 4/29/03 8:12:31 AM Reply	Hah. Good point. The world is only a simple place to the simple.
Post #99,500 by tuberculosis 4/30/03 4:06:21 PM 8/21/07 6:08:48 AM Reply	I haven't used a company supplied computer in an awfully long time. I end up using my PowerBook and I take it everywhere. So of course it needs tunes (although they live on an external firewire drive - there's no room on the local). "Packed like lemmings into shiny metal boxes. Contestants in a suicidal race." - Synchronicity II - The Police Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:08:48 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #99,201 by Andrew Grygus 4/29/03 12:12:07 AM Reply	I've revised the article . . . . taking into account the comments posted here - mostly in the last section. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]

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