Post #9,782
9/19/01 9:58:30 PM
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I'm about to become a spam demon
We currently have a client for some database and
call center activity.
He currently does some SERIOUS spamming, about 2 million
messages a week. Claims opt in. God know how he conned
that kind of opt in, but he wheels and deals, accumulating
names from various ventures, so I accept (for the moment)
that they are legit.
He currently uses a service that he does not like, and
is looking to switch. Maybe to me.
So:
I need a solution that is capable of send 1 million messages
in a 12 hour period. This includes hardware, software, and
communication lines. It also will have to have a web based opt
out system, as well as able to read returned and bounced messages
to also flag them in a database to not resend. I expect to have
to install at least 1 dedicated T1, and possibly more. I also
may setup a few DSL lines, not sure yet.
Other than tell me to kill myself now, does anyone have any suggestions
for a full package to do what I've described?
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Post #9,805
9/20/01 3:54:27 AM
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That's nice
I'd strongly recommend you not come 'round here looking for partners in crime.
...unless you'd like to advertise the IP and ISP of origin.
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Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?
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Post #9,810
9/20/01 5:46:48 AM
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Well, I know *where* to send 'em, anyway...
Just route 'em all to postmaster@127.0.0.1 -- he'll make sure each gets to the intended recipient!
Christian R. Conrad
The Man Who Knows Fucking Everything
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Post #9,828
9/20/01 10:09:54 AM
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I'm going to recommend a friend
But only because he is a friend.
Because high volume email on commodity hardware is his business.
And because he is sure to ask some hard questions, and I trust him to be unhelpful if the situation warrants.
Try [link|mailto:nelson@crynwr.com|nelson@crynwr.com] who runs [link|http://www.crynwr.com|www.crynwr.com].
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #9,966
9/20/01 6:38:25 PM
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Re: I'm going to recommend a friend
Wow.
The original packet drivers.
I used his token ring shim driver
to pretend it was an ethernet
card on Dos 10 years ago.
Actually, I think I've narrowed
it down.
3 Linux boxen, Reiser FS, qmail.
Co-loed at ISP.
Our ISP was the original Sanford Wallace
ISP, and they are REAL careful. A hint
of resending after someone told you not
to and they yank your box. Having your
entire ISP range of addresses black-holed
does that to you.
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Post #10,004
9/20/01 9:52:34 PM
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Could I make a recommendation.
If you have never set up qmail before - or even if you have and wondered why it was such a chore - could I recommend [link|http://www.courier-mta.org/|Courier] instead. It was originally a qmail alternative (!), using maildir as it's native format and borrows qmail's .qmail files for end-user configuration. It's not the complete solution you requested, though, which is why I didn't suggest it earlier.
Wade
"All around me are nothing but fakes
Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #10,159
9/21/01 6:52:40 PM
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Saved by the greed
Actually, I have setup qmail.
It's easy.
(said after I almost killed myself over it).
Doesn't matter. The client was not 100% honest
about how much they would be willing to pay for the
service, (what would you expect from people
already spamming?) which killed the deal.
I may be scum, but at least I'm not cheap scum.
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Post #10,261
9/23/01 8:27:25 AM
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You have a slightly odd definition of "easy"
I found Qmail interesting and funky the first time. After I had to find and re-compile another, unrelated piece of software to do something Mr Bernstein has decided he won't patch qmail to do* The second time, it was just painful. Courier is much nicer to setup.
Wade.
* Which is configurable relaying. Courier has a whole configuration file devoted to this.
"All around me are nothing but fakes
Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #9,899
9/20/01 3:05:06 PM
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Lemme guess...
He sells "Grow-it-big" cream and "Make $500K a year...working FROM HOME" scams?
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Peter
Shill For Hire
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Post #9,967
9/20/01 6:39:23 PM
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Re: Lemme guess...
Hey, I grew 3 inches!
Wider.
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Post #9,972
9/20/01 7:10:44 PM
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That's just because ...
(Oh, wait. I just noticed that second line. Well, for the sake of this punch line let's pretend it's not there.)
You're just one of those wierdoes who gets excited at the though of installing new hardware.
This is my sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
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Post #10,776
9/28/01 10:56:46 AM
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Sorry, that's hard to believe.
2 million messages a week, all of them "opted in"? I can think of no more than a dozen organizations that might actually have several million opted in subscribers. Say weekly newsletters from the largest ISP's, mailings from sites like Yahoo or Amazon, certainly Microsoft proably has that kind of volume, but surely no more than a handful of other organizations.
In all seriousness, I would be interested in learning what kind of legitimate mailing he might be sending out.
Who knows how empty the sky is
In the place of a fallen tower.
Who knows how quiet it is in the home
Where a son has not returned.
-- Anna Akhmatova (1889-1966)
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Post #11,103
10/1/01 12:34:44 PM
10/1/01 12:36:44 PM
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Re: I'm about to become a spam demon
Well, I can't recommend them as I've never used them, but I do know that my wife audits a company here in Dallas called E2 Communications, and they offer such a service for mass mailings.
I think it's at [link|http://www.e2communications.com/|http://www.e2communications.com/].
HTH,
-Jason
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My pid is Inigo Montoya. You "killed -9" my parent process. Prepare to vi.
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