Post #96,859
4/16/03 2:22:40 PM
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Does anybody have the link to Karsten's "solution" to this?
I've got some intranet pages that exhibit the same thing when I access them w/ Mozilla, and I want to bypass (and publish) the "fix".
jb4
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
Rich Cook
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Post #96,862
4/16/03 3:00:54 PM
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Here it is:
[link|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UserAgentString|UserAgentString]
b4k4^2
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Post #96,866
4/16/03 3:53:01 PM
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Added to the discussion section...
...So go [link|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UserAgentString|Discuss]!
-YendorMike
[link|http://www.hope-ride.org/|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
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Post #96,880
4/16/03 5:02:57 PM
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Yours....
I like Better.
b4k4^2
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Post #96,899
4/16/03 7:00:42 PM
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OK great! but...
I've got my three links to TwikIWeThey. What I don't have is a link tot he original discussion here. In that discussion, Somebody had the instructions on how to modify Moz to impersonate Insecure Exposer and send a nastygram to the world about using standards. While I really want to send the nastygram, I also want to impersonate IE so I can get their internal pages to render on Moz.
I've already updated prefs.js (which, it would help if TwikIWeThey would tell you where to find it; I had three pres.js and no user.js on my system here) to send the nastygram....
jb4
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
Rich Cook
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Post #96,901
4/16/03 7:16:33 PM
4/17/03 8:21:13 AM
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It is prefs.js
Here is mine for Windows: # Mozilla User Preferences\n// This is a generated file!\n\nuser_pref("general.useragent.override", "Stop fucking obsessing over user-agent and code to W3C standards already.");OKAY... so I pulled a Karsten here... and even got a Comment on Apropos procedures... (I seem to recall something along the lines of Pot calling the Kettle Dayglo orange or something...) b4k4^2
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Post #96,903
4/16/03 7:18:42 PM
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Why did you feel the need to post the whole file?
-YendorMike
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Post #96,914
4/16/03 9:48:02 PM
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LINE BREAKS! AIYEEEE!
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #96,940
4/17/03 1:55:36 AM
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For posting config files, settings, etc., ...
...an attachment at the appropriate TWiki page, and a link from here, is far more appropriate. --\r\n
Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]\r\n
[link|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]\r\n
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n
[link|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever.\r\n
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Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead.\r\n[link|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html]\r\n
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Post #96,907
4/16/03 7:57:15 PM
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You tried a search? See #80437
[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=80437|#80437].
(Found doing a search for "user" in a post by kmself.)
HTH.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #97,340
4/18/03 6:32:35 PM
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OK...Look guys...
I The point I'm still missing is where within Moz do you set how Moz identifies its emulations? For example, fromthe link AnotherScott (very thoughtfully) reproduced: ...and in the event you've failed to grasp the concept of hyperlinks and reading the article, the are:
* Opera 7.0: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.1) Opera 7.0 [en]
* MSIE 6.0: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
* Netscape 7.01: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01
Note that Karsten does not indicate here what Moz's string is, nor where to find it to modify it. For example, if this were Netscape, I might modify it to say something alogn the lines of: "Mozilla/5.0 ( compatible; MSIE 6.0 Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 Stop fscking obsessing over user-agent and code to W3C standards already." (underlining indicates my additions). My user agent string in my prefs.js reads: "user_pref("general.useragent.override", "Stop fucking obsessing over user-agent and code to W3C standards already.");" Where in there is the "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; yadda yadda yadda...)" stuff? Sory to appear dense, but I do embedded systems for a living; I really don't know this stuff! jb4
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
Rich Cook
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Post #97,399
4/19/03 4:42:23 PM
4/19/03 6:11:26 PM
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Check at Mozilla.org
[link|http://www.mozilla.org/build/revised-user-agent-strings.html|Here]. The setting of the string is detailed there.
[Added in Edit}:
How to add the Mozilla/5.0 stuff is detailed [link|http://mozilla.org/unix/customizing.html#prefs|here] - scroll down to the "Miscellaneous stuff" section of "user.js".
HTH.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #97,552
4/21/03 10:00:03 AM
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Thanks, AnotherScott
Your links filled in the missing pieces. Unfortunately, I still can't get the intranet site to believe I'm an Insecure Exposer user. My user agent string is now: user_pref("general.useragent.override", "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2; Stop fscking obsessing over user-agent and code to W3C standards already.) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01");
I'll fiddle with it later and see if I can fool it into working. If you see any glaring errors here, please let me know... thanx- jb4
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
Rich Cook
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Post #97,593
4/21/03 11:52:46 AM
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Stop eating your cake
You can pretend to be InternetExplorer, or you can send the editorial comment about the user-agent string, but I suspect you can't do both. I would presume that IIS is configured to be as restrictive as possible about the string, meaning anything it doesn't recognize as a "default" InternetExplorer string will cause the browser to be rejected.
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Post #97,618
4/21/03 1:23:24 PM
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**snicker**
I would presume that IIS is configured to be as restrictive as possible about the string, meaning anything it doesn't recognize as a "default" InternetExplorer string will cause the browser to be rejected. Actually, I suspect the problem is in the javascript, not in IIS. For the one site I tried, I looked at the javascript that renders it. The problem is that it invokes three other javascripts that I canot get to (easily, anyway...I don't know where they're stored, nor do I know how to get them anyway.) I suspec that theoffending check is in one or more of these javascripts. (My experience in the past with hostile javastripts has been that the javascript itself contains the check for orthodoxy, and that IIS doesn't sully its hands with such stuff. YMMV, of course.) jb4
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning."
Rich Cook
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Post #97,409
4/19/03 7:50:17 PM
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It's there
Read the thread. Or the [link|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UserAgentString#How_to_set_user_agent|TWIT User Agent] page, which Grygus links to directly. --\r\n
Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]\r\n
[link|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]\r\n
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n
[link|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever.\r\n
\r\n
Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead.\r\n[link|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html]\r\n
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Post #96,863
4/16/03 3:05:41 PM
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Do you mean this?
[link|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UserAgentString|UserAgentString]
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Post #96,864
4/16/03 3:06:53 PM
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Beat you by 5 Minutes Drewk - neener neener...
b4k4^2
| [link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - IT Grand-Master for President | | [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] | | [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,857673,00.asp|2004, the year Microsoft develops for Linux ] | Heimatland Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
The DHS [link|http://www.whitehouse.gov/pcipb/cyberspace_strategy.pdf|Cyberer-Stratergery]. The ultimate in Cyber. |
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