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Post #8,929 by tuberculosis 9/13/01 3:09:33 PM Reply	Thats one of the other ones the class libraries don't match. Its kept the community fragmented and unable to gain critical mass. I'm not saying all Smalltalks should be identical, but there ought to be base equivalencies at some level - for instance collections and stuff. Just like you have portable C and then platform specific C, there ought to be similar facilities in Smalltalk. It would allow some libraries to be developed once and shared among all Smalltalk users regardless of implementation.
Post #8,931 by Fearless Freep 9/13/01 3:23:57 PM Reply	Actually.. Most of the Collections and Streams are compatible and a lot of base stuff The real divergence is in anything dealing with the underlying OS; both GUI and File IO. Since each Smalltalk was written to fit a different sort of problem from a different philisophical direction, they have differen tways of implementing the relationship with their environment. Which is actually a good thing. Dolphin and Visualworks have different goals they try to attain, so they have different ways of meeting those goals. So the developer can choose the approach that makes more sense for their own particular problem Jay O'Connor "Going places unmapped to do things unplanned to people unsuspecting"
Post #9,333 by ben_tilly 9/15/01 11:02:08 PM Reply	Many incompatible but perfectly finely-tuned answers... will lose in the end to a worse answer that works in many situations. This is the basic message of Worse is Better. There are many features which are better per developer or per project, but are worse per community. Creating ideal environments at the cost of fragmentation has been a classic issue for languages like Lisp. By contrast languages like C and Perl, clearly much worse in many ways, do a better job with that and benefit on the whole from it. The fact that Smalltalk provides the custom answer you really want on your project is not at all inconsistent with the failure of Smalltalk to realize the potential that its supporters believe possible. Cheers, Ben

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