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New Here's a question for ya.
If they're living in squalor, and they don't like it, why don't they just up and move to someplace better?

It worked for the ancestors of most American citizens. Not all to the same degree, but that only helps prove my point.
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New Many places won't accept them, as you know.
Lots of places have restrictions on immigration, especially on "economic" refugees. Moving isn't much of an option for them. And why should they have to leave?

And you didn't really answer my questions.

Your second comment is non sequitur, IMO. The issue isn't "overpopulation", its the fact that there's a large group of people who aren't going away. Any solution has to recognize that fact and deal with that fact in a constructive way.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Nobody wanted the Irish in America either.
And still they came. And they're still here.

And incidentally, if nobody, literally nobody, wants them, whose fault is that? They should try to be a bit less bloodthirsty, hmmm?

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New And then there's the Mexican migrant workers.
Whom the border patrol are laboring mightily to keep out, but without success.

Did you even stop to think about this for two heartbeats before you decided to flame me? You're not just wrong. You're downright silly.
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New Um, I didn't flame you. No offense intended.
New Okay. My bad.
Addison and jabberwhatever hurling ignorant scorn at me, and you standing a little too close to them. I'll try to aim more carefully in the future.
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New Of all the unbelieveably stupid questions...
No money, no education, no hope. Every visit one of those 3d world countries?

What are they to do? Jump on a plane, fly to Redmond and get a job as a Microsoft certified software engineer?

So, how do they "up and move"?

Where to?

And how do they support themselves once they make that move?

And where do they get the education necessary to improve their "quality of life"?
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New Of all the unbelievably stupid objections.
Plenty of immigrants to America had these very same problems. They managed. To get here and stay here, that is. No excuses.
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     Plane crashes into World Trade Center - (Silverlock) - (78)
         Make that TWO planes crashes into World Trade Center - (jbrabeck)
         Just posted that in Open - (drewk) - (1)
             Wife just called - (drewk)
         Explosion reported at Pentagon - (Silverlock) - (1)
             MSNBC -- bomb or plane... -NT - (jbrabeck)
         Sears Tower evacuated - (Silverlock)
         WTC building has collasped ... MSNBC -NT - (jbrabeck)
         pray for btilly and everyone else of course. -NT - (boxley)
         Re: Commercial Plane crashes into Pentagon too? - (brettj)
         Explosion at Capitol Building too... - (jake123)
         I presume this means the U.S. is at war. - (Andrew Grygus) - (54)
             I agree, but with whom? - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                 Could be anyone at this point. - (Andrew Grygus)
             The US should exercise restraint - (bluke) - (32)
                 Bull - (jbrabeck) - (31)
                     I agree 100%, but the US State Dept doesn't - (bluke)
                     The perpetrators will be embeded within the innocent. - (Andrew Grygus)
                     He was just making a point - (drewk) - (1)
                         Exactly - (bluke)
                     Israel should have exercised restraint. - (CRConrad) - (26)
                         Re: Israel should have exercised restraint. - (jbrabeck)
                         Blame Israel - (bluke) - (7)
                             Oh, stop being such a pathetic, whiny little prick! - (CRConrad) - (6)
                                 I guess Durban was just a bad dream - (bluke) - (1)
                                     Whine, whine -NT - (CRConrad)
                                 I guess Durban was just a bad dream - (bluke) - (2)
                                     Whine, whine, whine -NT - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                         Whine whine whine whine? - (marlowe)
                                 well he might be a whiny etc dont encourage him -NT - (boxley)
                         Oh, please. - (marlowe) - (16)
                             Rather wide brush there, Phil... - (Another Scott) - (15)
                                 Here's a question for ya. - (marlowe) - (7)
                                     Many places won't accept them, as you know. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                         Nobody wanted the Irish in America either. - (marlowe) - (3)
                                             And then there's the Mexican migrant workers. - (marlowe) - (2)
                                                 Um, I didn't flame you. No offense intended. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                     Okay. My bad. - (marlowe)
                                     Of all the unbelieveably stupid questions... - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                                         Of all the unbelievably stupid objections. - (marlowe)
                                 Here's another one. - (marlowe) - (3)
                                     yeah right, another stupid question. - (jbrabeck) - (2)
                                         Another stupid objection. - (marlowe) - (1)
                                             Unbelieveable - (jbrabeck)
                                 What does pertain - (marlowe) - (2)
                                     Marlowe for Benevolent (?) Despot! - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                         Most of the those six billion aren't a problem. - (marlowe)
             get the right heads and place them on sticks - (boxley) - (3)
                 lets also not assume it is Arab related either. Other folks - (boxley) - (1)
                     Definitely must agree - (bconnors)
                 Kill people????? - (bluke)
             Andrew, think bigger... - (jb4)
             Let's dust off the Nukes - (SpiceWare) - (13)
                 How do you use nukes if it's the world trade radicals? -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                     Once we find out who's behind it - (SpiceWare)
                 Cooler heads are needed now, Darryl - (jb4) - (10)
                     Cycle of violence - (bluke) - (8)
                         I don't agree with that advice either. - (SpiceWare) - (7)
                             All I ask ... - (bluke) - (6)
                                 Israel is not innocent either. - (Andrew Grygus) - (5)
                                     Absolutely not - (bluke) - (1)
                                         I do not favor killing those civilians . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                     Some relevent quotes - (drewk) - (2)
                                         Re: Some relevent quotes - (Fearless Freep) - (1)
                                             No, it's not - (drewk)
                     Hence "dust off" instead of "Launch" -NT - (SpiceWare)
         My thoughts are with all you folks - (Meerkat) - (2)
             Thanks. - (brettj)
             Mine too. - (static)
         Try www.chicagotribune.com - (jb4) - (1)
             www.chron.com also working - (SpiceWare)
         We'll be hearing real soon how much better off . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (7)
             Great! - (jb4)
             Yes, we'll hear it.... - (jbrabeck) - (5)
                 Not only that... - (inthane-chan)
                 Yes... - (Fearless Freep) - (3)
                     Nope - (jbrabeck) - (2)
                         Well... - (Fearless Freep) - (1)
                             I agree. Too late to prevent when plane airborne! -NT - (jbrabeck)

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