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For the sake of argument, I'll grant your premise that U.S. foreign policy has amounted to telling Israel to sacrifice people to suicide bombers. Are you now concluding that the U.S. is morally obligated to sacrifice the same number of our own citizens before we can take any action in our own defense?

Now, as for the premise ... Let's suppose the U.S. policy has been to explicitly tell Isreal to sacrifice its people to suicide bombers. Why would they listen to us? Could it be to keep receiving all the military and other financial aid we provide? Do you really think there are no strings attached? If you don't want Israel to feel bound by U.S. policy, all they have to do is stop taking the money.
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If the US believes that restraint is the right policy for others why not for itself.

Like it or not the US is the only superpower in the world. Even if the US gave Israel no money it still has alot of control and an important voice. Europe gives Israel no money, yet when they speak people here listen. The reason is simple. Israel is a small country and depends on trade etc. for survival.
     Recap of known events as of 9:50 AM Central - (Silverlock) - (97)
         My first question is: - (jb4) - (13)
             Well..... - (jbrabeck)
             It's *always* an inside job - (drewk)
             Did the Pittsburgh plane hit anything? - (SpiceWare) - (10)
                 Uncomfirmed report that it was shot down. - (Silverlock) - (6)
                     F16 shadowed plane from LAX to Washington DC also? - (brettj) - (5)
                         Just heard on radio. 4 planes still unaccounted for 10:55 am -NT - (Silverlock)
                         Cross-country flights... - (admin) - (3)
                             No accident that they were Cross-country flights - (brettj) - (2)
                                 Not according to a post below this - (drewk) - (1)
                                     Palestinians celebrating in the streets - (bluke)
                 I'd bet the pilots were dead long before any crashes -NT - (GBert) - (1)
                     The FAA received communications after one hijacking - (brettj)
                 It landed in a forested area - (brettj)
         not a good day - (cwbrenn) - (29)
             Was thinking same thing in reverse: I know who planned this! - (CRConrad) - (28)
                 Just think of Clancy as a white hat hacker. - (marlowe) - (25)
                     Level of security - (jbrabeck) - (24)
                         Some things we could do. - (marlowe) - (23)
                             You haven't been reading comp.risks. - (static) - (3)
                                 Never mind how vast it is. - (marlowe) - (2)
                                     Price tag = very high. - (static) - (1)
                                         Or alternately, do it or your liability insurance premiums.. - (marlowe)
                             sleep gas into the cabin - (boxley) - (2)
                                 Now there's an avenue to explore. - (marlowe) - (1)
                                     cheap low tech solution think stagecoach and shotgun -NT - (boxley)
                             Some concerns - (Steven A S)
                             Some different things which could be done. - (Another Scott) - (14)
                                 Reaction - (jbrabeck) - (7)
                                     Carry-ons - (admin) - (5)
                                         Guess you're right - (jbrabeck) - (2)
                                             Kidding aside... - (admin) - (1)
                                                 That's the point: put the kiddens aside -NT - (drewk)
                                         Make 'em check 'em. - (addison) - (1)
                                             Sounds like a great idea - (jbrabeck)
                                     Instead of locked cockpit door - (Steven A S)
                                 Would be simpler... - (addison) - (5)
                                     Not as effective, IMO. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                         What if cockpit door lock was controlled from ground? - (drewk) - (1)
                                             More complexity; pilot is master of the plane. - (Another Scott)
                                         More, really. - (addison) - (1)
                                             More simple - (wharris2)
                 Debt of Honor. - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                     Thanks for correction... Couldn't remember which TC book! -NT - (jbrabeck)
         Crash at Camp David also - (brettj) - (16)
             Well, that pretty much pins it: Islamics or Israelis -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (8)
                 Could also be Bin Laden -NT - (Silverlock) - (5)
                     That would fall firmly under Islamics. - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                         Yer right, I'm not thinking clearly today. Very upset. -NT - (Silverlock)
                         Bin Laden announced unprecedented attack 3 weeks ago - (admin)
                     Why not the Columbians? - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                         Columbians never heard of Camp David. -NT - (Andrew Grygus)
                 Didn't we get a member of one of the drug cartels in just - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                     Drug cartels don't do suicide attacks . . - (Andrew Grygus)
             Source? Haven't heard anything - (wharris2) - (4)
                 CBS or CNN, I think. - (brettj) - (3)
                     Got four planes and a car bomb right now - (wharris2) - (2)
                         Car bomb was a false alert. - (admin)
                         My wife just left our house - (drewk)
             Who reported this? - (jbrabeck)
             Pennsylvania plane - (wharris2)
         Yassir Arofat and Tony Blair offered their condolences - (brettj) - (23)
             While Palestinians dance in the streets - (wharris2) - (22)
                 That is one of my biggest fears. - (brettj) - (2)
                     Not to mention atheist fanatics. - (marlowe) - (1)
                         Fanatics in general. Good point. - (brettj)
                 Unfortunately, the only way we can gain their respect . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (18)
                     Really wish there was a way I could disagree with you -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                         So do I -NT - (Andrew Grygus)
                     Hit `em so they can't get up. - (marlowe) - (15)
                         You guys are unbelievable - (bluke) - (1)
                             It's amazing, isn't it? - (static)
                         Declaration of War - (Andrew Grygus) - (8)
                             You are advocating the commission of war crimes - (bluke) - (4)
                                 Mass destruction should be avoided . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                                     The same number of innocents... - (bluke) - (2)
                                         Good logic - (drewk) - (1)
                                             Why not? - (bluke)
                             And Americans accuse Israel of using excessive force???????? -NT - (bluke) - (2)
                                 I do not think you will find that I have . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                     Maybe not... - (bluke)
                         I seem to recall something about the "Crusades".... - (addison) - (3)
                             Yabut. - (mmoffitt)
                             Everybody remembers the Crusades - (GBert)
                             Something I might want to reconsider slightly? - (marlowe)
         Bin Laden - (admin) - (7)
             Report on NPR... - (inthane-chan) - (6)
                 CNN says bin Laadan denied responsibility - (jake123) - (3)
                     Anyone with any sense would deny it - (wharris2)
                     Oh yeah, and he'll be believed. - (admin)
                     bin Laden or Taliban denies? - (mmoffitt)
                 Probably a dozen unknown groups will claim responsibility. - (Andrew Grygus)
                 Re: Report on NPR... - (addison)
         Tower collapses - (wharris2)
         Perspective: 25-50K workers at WTC - (kmself) - (1)
             Count Vietnamese deaths in Vietnam to get a true comparison - (jake123)
         Re: Recap of known events as of 9:50 AM Central - (Arkadiy)

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