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New What I would really like to see
A translation of chapters 10 and 11 of the Bhagavad Gita from the original Sanskrit.

Into E-prime.

Maybe it'll help me make sense of TM and all that nondualism yap.

(I started to lose my last shred of respect for the book at this point. I soldiered on for another coupla chapters just to be fair, and then gave up in disgust.)
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New Thy wish in script, etchings and.. sound
[link|http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/index-english.html|Bhagavad-Gita]


TM? Heh..

Maharishi was a physicist (!) Came by to visit us once.. smushed in beside him to the consternation of the er guard guys. Pretty much monopolized him for a half hour or so as we walked around looking at accelerator stuff (WTF: carpe diem). Nice conversation about ~ the limitations of physics. And, what Else is there? Yup he really was a physicist.. Too. Oh - and memorable to meet. Gave me a rose.

As to the TM stuff. There's really no One Right intro, as likely you realize; also, while logic is where we ever begin, it often isn't enough - for sure it won't get one beyond 'appearances', however elegant the deductions. That's prolly why it's so hard to recommend - anything on such topics, of a "general sort".

But the deep conflicts, ultimate questions beneath just the 'apparent story' of Arjuna and Krishna's exchanges, can come through. Unless you don't have ~ questions actually. Then the plot reads pretty crazy, and the actions seem plain grisly. ('Course it helps to recall what human wars are like; we have lots of recent experience). But it isn't another 'Art of War' thing.

Good luck.


Ashton
New But this does not consist of E-prime.
It instantiates the fatally ambiguous transitive verb at one or two points. You know the one of which I speak.

I have no problem with grisly questions. But I object to glib responses, and even more to that which reads like doubetalk. And hence originates my disappointment with the Bhagavad Gita.

As Bill Clinton once astutely observed, it depends on the definition of the forbidden verb. And if we do not supply a working definition, do we in fact engage in communication?

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New Prepare for eternal disappointment
if you had imagined that some perfectly clear nouns and verbs, with ordinary referents - would Reveal All.

Nobody said the ineffable was EZ.


A.
New The ineffable? Effing what?
Chapter 10 seems to boil down to: if Krishna were an ice cream flavor, He'd be blueberry.

Chapter 11 amounts to: Krishna is the underlying flavor behind all ice cream flavors, which by the way don't really exist, so never mind.
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     What I would really like to see - (marlowe) - (4)
         Thy wish in script, etchings and.. sound - (Ashton) - (3)
             But this does not consist of E-prime. - (marlowe) - (2)
                 Prepare for eternal disappointment - (Ashton) - (1)
                     The ineffable? Effing what? - (marlowe)

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