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Today, the gravest danger in the war on terror, the gravest danger facing America and the world, is outlaw regimes that seek and possess nuclear, chemical and biological weapons.

These regimes could use such weapons for blackmail, terror and mass murder. They could also give or sell those weapons to terrorist allies, who would use them without the least hesitation.


Take out "America" and guess which country comes to mind. IRAN-CONTRA anyone?


Year after year, Saddam Hussein has gone to elaborate lengths, spent enormous sums, taken great risks to build and keep weapons of mass destruction. But why?

The only possible explanation, the only possible use he could have for those weapons, is to dominate, intimidate or attack


Subst "US" for "Saddam Hussein" and "he" with "they" and guess what? The statements are EVEN MORE accurate based on real life/known facts.

Throughout the 20th century, small groups of men seized control of great nations, built armies and arsenals, and set out to dominate the weak and intimidate the world.


And it is still happening in the 21st century by a group led by G.W.Bush and T.Blair.

Which country is CURRENTLY showing MORE WILLINGNESS in using WMD?
Which country is CURRENTLY threatening the lifes of millions of civilians?
Which country is CURRENTLY deploying its military forces against the WORLD's wish?
And by logic, which country is the greater EVIL at this moment?
Expand Edited by TTC Jan. 29, 2003, 11:31:40 PM EST
New Yo Bro - Yo da man !!! - enjoyed that <grin>
New Shew... that is scary... true... but scary.

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New Neither.
The trouble with the French is they have no word for "roulons."
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Victory is the answer. There are no alternatives.
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New Re: Neither.
So it is NOT TRUE, and just the rest of the world and myself hallucinating the [link|http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2002/iraq/deployment.map/index.iraq.html|troops/carrier task forces deployed in/ard M.E.]?

Or is the thought that [link|http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/01/25/1042911596206.html|"the US intends to shatter Iraq "physically, emotionally and psychologically" by raining down on its people as many as 800 cruise missiles in two days"], and I quote,

The Pentagon battle plan aims not only to crush Iraqi troops, but also wipe out power and water supplies in the capital, Baghdad.

It is based on a strategy known as "Shock and Awe", conceived at the National Defense University in Washington, in which between 300 and 400 cruise missiles would fall on Iraq each day for two consecutive days. It would be more than twice the number of missiles launched during the entire 40 days of the 1991 GulfWar.

"There will not be a safe place in Baghdad," a Pentagon official told America's CBS News after a briefing on the plan. "The sheer size of this has never been seen before, never been contemplated before."


NOT SCARY for you?
Expand Edited by TTC Jan. 30, 2003, 02:26:13 PM EST
New dont plan on being in downtown bahgdad anytime soon
so no it is not scary for me. As a method to quickly end the war in Iraq it leaves a lot to be desired, It would be more useful to put the missiles on Tikrit but it is an old american tactic. If you cant find the Indians that killed some whites go to where the Indians can be found (reservations) and wipe THEM out.
thanx,
bill
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New It's not wiping people out, guys.
These are precision weapons. It's not like carpet bombing. Some bystanders might get caught in the blast, but that's not the objective. The objective is to take out strategic targets, and at the same time make all onlookers poop their pants. When they surrender, we'll give `em fresh undies.

I think Republican Guard's barracks count as a strategic target. Likewise many government buildings. And of course power stations, communications and the like. Don't be standing near any of those, and you'll be safe, at least by middle eastern standards.

The worst that can happen is Saddam jams the GPS signal, so they go a bit off course. And from what I gather, that's not likely to be very effective.
"Going to a march organized by Communists doesn't make you a Communist, any more than going to a march organized by Nazis makes you a Nazi." - Glenn Reynolds
The trouble with the French is they have no word for "roulons."
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New I thought the comms were moved under the hospitals?
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New Their death wasn't the goal.
So, killing innocent civilians is okay to achieve your goals?

I guess you and Saddam have something in common.
New Marlowe has a better hat collection
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New Re: It's not wiping people out, guys.
Is this the same logic that the 9/11 terrorists used. I mean, the targets were SYMBOLS, not people, no?

Or how'bout you try

Between 300 and 400 cruise missiles would fall on US each day for two consecutive days. It would be more than twice the number of missiles launched during the entire 40 days of the 1991 GulfWar.

"There will not be a safe place in Washington," an Iraqi official told America's CBS News after a briefing on the plan. "The sheer size of this has never been seen before, never been contemplated before."


And then we TALK about "NOT WIPING PEOPLE OUT".

Sheesh!

New 400 missiles on bagdad/day != precision
They have another word for it: "carpet bombing"

Ref. Hamburg, 1945 (At least, I think I have my dates correct; Ashton, pls correct if I misplaced a decimal or something. Thanx)
jb4
"They lead. They don't manage. The carrot always wins over the stick. Ask your horse. You can lead your horse to water, but you can't manage him to drink."
Richard Kerr, United Technologies Corporation, 1990
New Well OK
Mid '43, though it had been attacked since '42. It was over 3 or 4 days of round the clock bombing: HE bombs and then incendiaries, alternating - keeping people in the shelters.

The first firestorm was created, huge winds via the unprecedented chimney effect. Many cremated within the shelters - after dying from CO poisoning, as all the oxygen in the air was used by the fire. Practic for the entirely unstrategic Dresden raid of Kurt Vonnegut infamy.

No way to compare - except that incendiaries are Not about surgical strikes. A firestorm? would imply genocidal levels of violence: with 2002 knowledge, IMO.

Maybe we won't have to find out - if many more revelations of Admin fact-fudging occur.. a firestorm of new info?


I.
New Re: NOT SCARY for you?
Shoot. I thought you'd been playing along at home. Of course it isn't "scary" to any red-blooded American. Wars happen "over there" to people who don't believe in Our Savior(tm) Jesus Christ. They are heathens, aren't they? Does it matter if we get rid of some heathens? Not a bit to most of us.

I thought you knew that.

bcnu,
Mikem
New dont fergit commies. commie heathens, heathen communists :-)
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New I always thought it was commie-mutant-traitors
that caused the problems.

The Computer is your friend. Trust the computer.
New OK you've caught us Red-handed____ So???
How many legions have ya got, Chickie-boom?

'Round here the only Facts that comes up are about: throw-weight, hardness and Secondary Targets.

Hey suckah: you din't actually fall for all the humanitarian crap in that old Constitution rag, now did ya? Maybe you missed it: it's bein dismantled piece-by-piece. Just too much trouble to follow and all..

Sounds as if yer gettin ready for a little extended holiday at the Guanntanamo Hilton.. (Why we might even have a concierge from that rilly Hot Spot a'lurkin and agitatin right Here in River City.)



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     Yo Chickie! - (TTC) - (16)
         Yo Bro - Yo da man !!! - enjoyed that <grin> -NT - (dmarker)
         Shew... that is scary... true... but scary. -NT - (folkert) - (13)
             Neither. -NT - (marlowe) - (12)
                 Re: Neither. - (TTC) - (11)
                     dont plan on being in downtown bahgdad anytime soon - (boxley) - (7)
                         It's not wiping people out, guys. - (marlowe) - (6)
                             I thought the comms were moved under the hospitals? -NT - (boxley)
                             Their death wasn't the goal. - (Brandioch) - (1)
                                 Marlowe has a better hat collection -NT - (boxley)
                             Re: It's not wiping people out, guys. - (TTC)
                             400 missiles on bagdad/day != precision - (jb4) - (1)
                                 Well OK - (Ashton)
                     Re: NOT SCARY for you? - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                         dont fergit commies. commie heathens, heathen communists :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                             I always thought it was commie-mutant-traitors - (Simon_Jester)
         OK you've caught us Red-handed____ So??? - (Ashton)

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