Post #76,450
1/23/03 4:50:18 PM
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Bunker mentality
[link|http://www.20minutes.fr/20minutes/grand_paris/gestionArticles.svt?page=detail&code=22590|Dows Michael Moore know about this?]
[link|http://world.altavista.com/|Go translate it here]
Excerpt:
Les temples de la consommation vont-ils devenir de v\ufffdritables forteresses ? Ces derniers jours, les centres commerciaux r\ufffdgionaux doivent de nouveau faire face \ufffd une mont\ufffde de la violence. Et pour la contrer, des mesures de s\ufffdcurit\ufffd sans pr\ufffdc\ufffddent sont en train d\ufffd\ufffdtre d\ufffdploy\ufffdes.
Samedi dernier, deux ans apr\ufffds de vifs affrontements, le centre des Quatre Temps de La D\ufffdfense a \ufffdt\ufffd occup\ufffd par 180 policiers. Ils craignaient des d\ufffdbordements \ufffd l\ufffdoccasion de cette date anniversaire.
A l\ufffdAgora (Evry), des policiers \ufffd cheval patrouillent d\ufffdsormais aux abords du site. En p\ufffdriode de grande affluence, la police y d\ufffdploiera un important dispositif de pr\ufffdvention. Apr\ufffds les \ufffdv\ufffdnements du 11 janvier dernier (le centre de l\ufffdAgora avait \ufffdt\ufffd le th\ufffd\ufffdtre de violents affrontements entre bandes de quartiers d\ufffdEvry et de Courcouronnes), la soci\ufffdt\ufffd des centres commerciaux reconna\ufffdt que \ufffd ces sites se trouvent souvent d\ufffdmunis face \ufffd des rixes difficilement pr\ufffdvisibles \ufffd.
Souvent situ\ufffd \ufffd cheval sur deux, voire plusieurs communes, le centre commercial devient l\ufffdendroit id\ufffdal pour les r\ufffdglements de comptes entre gangs rivaux, selon un observateur. \ufffd Pas plus qu\ufffdun autre endroit de la cit\ufffd o\ufffd les jeunes ont leurs rep\ufffdres \ufffd, d\ufffdment Christian Gosse, directeur du projet d\ufffdextension du centre d\ufffdEvry II. Il souligne par ailleurs qu\ufffdil y a \ufffd rarement de d\ufffdg\ufffdts collat\ufffdraux \ufffd et que cette violence commence \ufffd \ufffdtre ma\ufffdtris\ufffde. \ufffd A Evry, on a enregistr\ufffd une baisse de 30 % de ces \ufffdv\ufffdnements en 2002. \ufffd A quel prix ? M. B.
[link|http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/french/story/0,7913,443432,00.html|Oh, and here's the Guardian's take] with some very interesting comments from local trash.
I say:
No need to stage scenes in a "documentary." No need for strained moral equivalence. This country is f***ed up. For real.
Victory is the answer. There are no alternatives.
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Post #76,451
1/23/03 4:51:00 PM
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SHUT THE FUCKING FUCK UP!
-drl
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Post #76,461
1/23/03 5:13:26 PM
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Good advice.
You should implement it.
Peter
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Post #76,464
1/23/03 5:20:35 PM
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Keep the cuss words out of subject lines.
Go read the forum guidelines again if you need to.
And after you've done that, go take a fucking break from here. You're getting needlessly antagonistic, annoying, and hateful again. And contrary to your assertion that you need to "shake things up" every now and then, this isn't the way to go about it.
Seriously. Take a break.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #76,532
1/23/03 9:45:08 PM
1/23/03 9:46:30 PM
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Life's too short.........
to let crap like his impinge. Lighten the fuck up.
...rare is the dollar of corporate profits that bears a tax burden heavier than the burden on an employee's wages.
[link|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/opinion/columns/kinsleymichael/|Michael Kinsley]
Edited by Silverlock
Jan. 23, 2003, 09:46:30 PM EST
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Post #76,556
1/23/03 10:21:46 PM
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Wrong, sort of
Life is way longer than it needs to be, unless of course there's a 2000 degree fire between you and the pavement, and 104x10 feet.
So I reckon life is exactly as long as it needs to be. "Das Leben ist alles, was der Fall ist."
-drl
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Post #76,559
1/23/03 10:25:50 PM
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Wish I knew German
What you wrote may have been interesting.
...rare is the dollar of corporate profits that bears a tax burden heavier than the burden on an employee's wages.
[link|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/opinion/columns/kinsleymichael/|Michael Kinsley]
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Post #76,563
1/23/03 10:28:21 PM
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AbAOLMeToo
-drl
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Post #76,459
1/23/03 5:11:46 PM
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Uh, what was that?
I thought you hated the French.
Now you're referencing French text websites.
About a gang fight in a mall?
A gang fight?
In a mall?
In a related story, I saw two kids fighting on the playground near my house. They seemed to be arguing over a swing.
The implications of this are simply too staggering to describe.
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Post #76,488
1/23/03 6:42:27 PM
8/21/07 12:43:34 PM
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Funny
I was walking home and passed a little theatre - seems to be a Michael Moore film festival - they are playing his complete works about a block from the Place de Republic.
Perhaps I ought to go.
I think that it's extraordinarily important that we in computer science keep fun in computing. When it started out, it was an awful lot of fun. Of course, the paying customer got shafted every now and then, and after a while we began to take their complaints seriously. We began to feel as if we really were responsible for the successful, error-free perfect use of these machines. I don't think we are. I think we're responsible for stretching them, setting them off in new directions, and keeping fun in the house. I hope the field of computer science never loses its sense of fun. Above all, I hope we don't become missionaries. Don't feel as if you're Bible salesmen. The world has too many of those already. What you know about computing other people will learn. Don't feel as if the key to successful computing is only in your hands. What's in your hands, I think and hope, is intelligence: the ability to see the machine as more than when you were first led up to it, that you can make it more.
--Alan Perlis
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Post #76,554
1/23/03 10:19:05 PM
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Double Feature with Jerry Lewis
Le Nutty Professor
L'Orderlie Disorderlie
Rozhay et Moi
-drl
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Post #76,637
1/24/03 8:45:49 AM
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Jeezze Todd !!! - Marlowe will NOT like that !!!
He trashed Moore here a couple of weeks back. Identified him as a drunken evil enemy of the state who gives rotten performances in London.
Hmmmm - perhaps the best place to see him is while overseas.
Cheers Doug
(PS maybe we could send Marlowe a copy of Moore's 'Stupid White Men' book - it may not only be approproiate to him but it may trigger a complete mental meltdown (fit of apoplexy), all we need is his loss of control of the mouse hand).
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Post #76,487
1/23/03 6:42:06 PM
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On this one...
...I find myself straining to get your point.
La Defense is one of the largest "commercial centers" (read Mall) in Paris...and has been known to be a gathering place for alot of "misguided" youth.
I was in Quatre Temps a couple of days after this happened. Read about it in the papers..and was actually just your average mall experience.
We have violent episodes like this in the US as well...so if this was an attempt to paint France as screwed up...keep trying. Gang violence at a mall happens here. Actually here we're not so picky about location. We had 2 high school football teams get into a brawl at a pre-season game this year...and thats just for starters. Had a shooting at the mall up the road.
Paris is a city of 9 million. Read the NY newspaper. Pretty normal.
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Post #76,895
1/25/03 10:27:58 AM
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Sorry I don't read French and the babefish appears to be
busted. So I am not getting whatever the story is. Is that Bunker as in Archie Bunker?
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