Well, I think you're still looking at the trees too much...

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Post #7,515

by Simon_Jester

9/2/01 8:39:07 PM

Well, I think you're still looking at the trees too much...

but it's a fair assessment of the forest. There was a fairly nice upswing in the early 80's followed by a normal decline (which Bush senior got blamed for, imo). Clinton caught the end of the downswing and rode it back on the up and the economy as a whole has been about ready to go back to a downswing. (These downswing generally last 2-4 years, imo).

But then again, I don't think Presidents can have any effect on the economy. Blaming Bush for the economy is as silly as praising Reagan for his.

What I find interesting is that certain people are changing their tunes...

Post #7,527

Picture of bepatient

9/2/01 11:09:20 PM

Presidential politics...

...for what they're worth...are just that....

They will get credit or blame for what happens on their watch.

However...

I find it interesting that Ronnie got blamed for the deficits....since his action was to lower taxes...which increased government revenue (just as it should...anti-intuitive as it may seem)

I find it interesting that the slams around here have GW responsible for the current economic slump...even though it had started almost a year before he took office.

And some of the folks around here just seem to think that one side is BAD and one side is GOOD...and Ashton has it all figured out...that both sides are the same and the rest is just semantic bullshit.

Some of the other things that bother me lately...the Democrats distancing themselves from Condit...when the only thing he did was sleep with an intern and then lie about it for a couple of months.

And...what fun would arguing about politics be...if someone didn't come in here and take the other side...it'd just be one big liberal love-fest around here without me...(with some exceptions that I know of...being even more hard line Libertarian than myself.

Whoopee!

You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson}

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]

Question for all you Repo apologists out there... - (jb4) - (59) - Aug. 28, 2001, 09:26:52 AM EDT

As opposed to... - (Another Scott) - (5) - Aug. 28, 2001, 09:39:43 AM EDT

How's that? - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Aug. 28, 2001, 12:54:39 PM EDT

A couple of examples. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Aug. 28, 2001, 01:26:03 PM EDT

Wow, are those nits ever small - (drewk) - Aug. 28, 2001, 01:46:34 PM EDT

I am unmoved. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 30, 2001, 03:03:14 PM EDT

Jimmy sure was a different President. - (inthane-chan) - Aug. 30, 2001, 04:39:56 PM EDT

He'll take the tobacco defense - (GBert) - Aug. 28, 2001, 11:26:47 AM EDT

Odds that we run a deficit b4 the Resident is out of office? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 28, 2001, 12:56:11 PM EDT

I'm not taking that bet (regardless of the odds)! -NT - (jb4) - Aug. 28, 2001, 02:00:09 PM EDT

Out of curiosity, what are you talking about? Budgets? - (wharris2) - Aug. 28, 2001, 02:11:26 PM EDT

Question for all you Repo doubters - (rsf) - (10) - Aug. 28, 2001, 04:12:54 PM EDT

As with most other politicians, telling when Bush is lying- - (DonRichards) - (2) - Aug. 28, 2001, 04:25:20 PM EDT

In this case, however - (wharris2) - (1) - Aug. 28, 2001, 05:13:27 PM EDT

I think you have it right - (DonRichards) - Aug. 29, 2001, 08:43:27 AM EDT

Try to follow along here, now... - (jb4) - (6) - Aug. 28, 2001, 05:23:45 PM EDT

Re: Try to follow along here, now... - (wharris2) - Aug. 28, 2001, 05:30:19 PM EDT

Re: Try to follow along here, now... - (bepatient) - (4) - Aug. 28, 2001, 06:08:15 PM EDT

Well...if it's their programs and their budget... - (Simon_Jester) - (2) - Aug. 28, 2001, 06:23:01 PM EDT

I'm sure there's some... - (bepatient) - (1) - Aug. 28, 2001, 06:27:10 PM EDT

I want every penny of that surplus - (wharris2) - Aug. 28, 2001, 11:34:09 PM EDT

IT'S BAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCK! - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 30, 2001, 03:45:22 PM EDT

Link to Sources - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Aug. 28, 2001, 04:55:38 PM EDT

surplus, what surplus? - (boxley) - Aug. 28, 2001, 10:50:52 PM EDT

Hee Hee - (deSitter) - (35) - Aug. 29, 2001, 10:48:29 AM EDT

Ho Ho - (rsf) - (34) - Aug. 29, 2001, 01:08:00 PM EDT

Jabbering is no use - (deSitter) - (30) - Aug. 29, 2001, 04:36:14 PM EDT

About that '92-2000 period... - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Aug. 29, 2001, 05:02:50 PM EDT

Denonthinker - (wharris2) - Aug. 29, 2001, 08:01:49 PM EDT

Jabbering is no use - agreed - (rsf) - Aug. 29, 2001, 05:07:29 PM EDT

Why don't you tie those dates... - (bepatient) - (23) - Aug. 29, 2001, 05:12:46 PM EDT

I musta been sleeping for 8 years, but... - (jb4) - (22) - Aug. 30, 2001, 08:42:58 AM EDT

slap slap - (wharris2) - Aug. 30, 2001, 11:42:03 AM EDT

Huh? - (bepatient) - (20) - Aug. 31, 2001, 04:13:33 PM EDT

hoorah! someone who understands basic economics! - (boxley) - (5) - Aug. 31, 2001, 09:46:22 PM EDT

Capital Formation - (Decco Dave) - (2) - Sept. 1, 2001, 11:00:23 AM EDT

the availability of capital has nothing to do with govt - (boxley) - Sept. 1, 2001, 09:17:33 PM EDT

There is a small effect... - (bepatient) - Sept. 1, 2001, 11:22:00 PM EDT

So lemme get this striaght.. - (jb4) - (1) - Sept. 6, 2001, 10:45:45 AM EDT

according to me yeah, propaganda value only -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 6, 2001, 12:56:16 PM EDT

Why that's.. that's - unDemocrat AND unRepublican!! of you \ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - (2) - Aug. 31, 2001, 09:53:18 PM EDT

That may be the nicest thing said to me in this forum:) -NT - (bepatient) - (1) - Aug. 31, 2001, 09:59:29 PM EDT

I had at times suspected that, behind that calm facade - (Ashton) - Sept. 1, 2001, 12:06:55 AM EDT

Policies can have some impact - (wharris2) - (10) - Sept. 1, 2001, 03:50:15 AM EDT

LOL! - (Simon_Jester) - (9) - Sept. 1, 2001, 09:53:32 AM EDT

Which one? -NT - (bepatient) - (8) - Sept. 1, 2001, 11:50:40 AM EDT

This one... - (Simon_Jester) - (7) - Sept. 1, 2001, 01:34:25 PM EDT

Ah... - (bepatient) - (6) - Sept. 1, 2001, 02:14:48 PM EDT

Muhahaha - (Simon_Jester) - (5) - Sept. 2, 2001, 08:56:01 AM EDT

Damn...I thought you could read... - (bepatient) - (4) - Sept. 2, 2001, 12:55:54 PM EDT

Oh I know, you left yourself weasel room - (Simon_Jester) - (3) - Sept. 2, 2001, 01:27:51 PM EDT

Well...lets see... - (bepatient) - (2) - Sept. 2, 2001, 02:07:54 PM EDT

Well, I think you're still looking at the trees too much... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Sept. 2, 2001, 08:39:07 PM EDT

Presidential politics... - (bepatient) - Sept. 2, 2001, 11:09:20 PM EDT

Clearly not so. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Aug. 29, 2001, 05:27:56 PM EDT

Nancy - (rsf) - Aug. 29, 2001, 05:32:58 PM EDT

Bizarre :) - (deSitter) - Aug. 30, 2001, 12:44:31 PM EDT

Re: Ho Ho - (kelzer) - (2) - Aug. 31, 2001, 04:56:19 PM EDT

Can we get an AMEN! -NT - (bepatient) - Aug. 31, 2001, 07:31:32 PM EDT

But can G. be blamed for the massive gullibility that Was - (Ashton) - Sept. 1, 2001, 04:31:47 PM EDT

I bet Socrates had a really nice lawn.
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