Temgen

Post #69,398 by folkert 12/17/02 4:52:27 PM Reply	Temgen I thought you'd all like to see this... It could definately be useful... given the right spots. Look through the user manual in the Docs Manager before you comment. [link\|http://developer.berlios.de/projects/temgen/\|Temgen code generator] `[link\|mailto:curley95@attbi.com\|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!]` Your friendly Geheime Staatspolizei reminds: [link\|http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,56742,00.html\|Wi-Fi enabled device use] comes with an all inclusive free trip to the (county)Photographer! Overbooking, is a problem, please be prepared for "room-ies". Why You ask? Here is the answer to your query: `SELECT * FROM politicians WHERE iq > 40 OR \\ WHERE ego < 1048575; 0 rows found`
Post #69,459 by ben_tilly 12/17/02 6:52:10 PM Reply	No interest here One of the most often re-invented wheels in the programming world is the idea of a templating system. There are a million and one of them out there, and most of them are not very good. They range from simple text substitution to full-blown languages. (More than one scripting langauge started life as a template system that got out of control. In the case of Perl, waaaaay out of control...) Unless I either have to use it for external reasons (used on a project of interest) or someone who I respect stand up and tell me that this particular templating system is signficantly better than a half-dozen others that I am already happy with, there is no reason for me to look at this. Sight unseen, the fact that they chose C as the to start a text processing system from scratch in is a pretty big strike against them. The fact that they don't address the question of what they plan to do differently/better than the million other solutions already out there suggests that they don't know about them. Sorry, Ben "Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly." - [link\|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html\|Walter Mead]
Post #69,648 by tuberculosis 12/18/02 1:42:39 PM Reply	Well yeah I agree with you - but I wasn't gonna slam it. I'm starting to dig Seaside - a Squeak based web app server - it uses continuations to basically stash a copy of the app in a given state mapped to various unique urls. Makes backtracking more straightforward to deal with (data persistence to a rdbms is another thing). It uses a builder pattern with lots of CSS support to provide page layout. No templates. The designers of the framework have been batting around how they want to layout UIs and templates were tossed in favor of design components - via builders or maybe adding a visual editor. I am out of the country for the duration of the Bush administration. Please leave a message and I'll get back to you when democracy returns.
Post #69,849 by neelk 12/19/02 8:35:03 AM Reply	Re: Well yeah I'm starting to dig Seaside - a Squeak based web app server - it uses continuations to basically stash a copy of the app in a given state mapped to various unique urls. Makes backtracking more straightforward to deal with (data persistence to a rdbms is another thing). You might also be interested in looking at [link\|http://www.plt-scheme.org\|PLT Scheme], since IIRC they are the folks that Avi Bryant got the idea of continuation-based web apps from.
Post #70,008 by tuberculosis 12/19/02 6:41:00 PM Reply	Yeah but can you edit code in the browser? Seaside has a page that implements a Smalltalk browser - on the local machine it feels about as fast as Squeak's GUI - and you don't have to switch windows. Thats pretty hard to beat. I am out of the country for the duration of the Bush administration. Please leave a message and I'll get back to you when democracy returns.
Post #69,941 by JimWeirich 12/19/02 1:15:47 PM Reply	Continuations -- Cool Todd: I'm starting to dig Seaside - a Squeak based web app server Avi (one of the Seaside developers) gave a demo of this at this years Ruby conference (using a Ruby version of the Seaside code ... Ruby has continuations built in). Yow! It blew my socks off. Finally a decent example of a good use of continuations. It almost made me wish I was developing web apps (but not quite). -- -- Jim Weirich jweirich@one.net [link\|http://w3.one.net/~jweirich\|http://w3.one.net/~jweirich] --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth (in a memo to Peter van Emde Boas)

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