Post #65,871
12/1/02 11:46:56 AM
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That reminds me of a picture that I would love to have...
Cover of one of the Perl Journals.
Remington typewriter. Currently typed up is a failed attempt to install Perl. :-)
Cheers, Ben
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Post #65,901
12/1/02 5:22:23 PM
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Close enough
c89 -c -I../Encode -DMAXSIG=38 -DOEMVS -D_OE_SOCKETS -D_XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED -D_ALL_SOURCE -DYYDYNAMIC -W 0,float\\(ieee\\) -DVERSION=\\"1.24\\" -DXS_VERSION=\\"1.24\\" "-I../../.." cp_00_t.c SEVERE ERROR CBC5002: Virtual storage exceeded. FSUM3065 The COMPILE step ended with return code 16. FSUM3017 Could not compile cp_00_t.c. Correct the errors and try again. FSUM8226 make: Error code 3 FSUM8226 make: Error code 255 FSUM8226 make: Error code 255
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Post #65,903
12/1/02 5:31:23 PM
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Reminds me of the time...
...when, back in the days when I was a UNIX neophyte, I was trying to install Perl 4 on SunOS 4.1, after I'd nagged the admins at Uni about it for approximately a fortnight. They gave me an account with sufficient disk quota and internet access, and I downloaded the tarball and unpacked it.
There was a configure script of sorts, but it was pretty manual - wanting to know the word size of int, long, double, unsigned int, unsigned long, unsigned double, etc etc.
Ah, them were t'days. This was 1991.
First thing I wrote (after spending a week or so just getting the thing to compile) was the official World's Worst Implementation Of Killall.
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Post #65,906
12/1/02 6:00:30 PM
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The configure script took me 2 hours!
The MF is so damn slow. And evil. Perl could not use nm to pull symbols, so it had to compile a program for each. And since it was so slow, it was no longer "interactive". And then it would pause and ask me a question. 5 minutes later, I'd realize it was waiting for input.
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Post #66,048
12/2/02 10:50:27 AM
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???
Why would you install Perl on a machine with no stdin and stdout?
Doesn't your MF have REXX?
Perl - bah.
-drl
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Post #66,250
12/2/02 8:25:16 PM
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I see a flame starting
But I'll bite!
1) The crappy slow mainframe actually has a very good shell environment. Full job control, pipes, etc, with access to the "regular" wierd files, plus Unix style HFS file system.
2) You can run Perl (or any other Unix process) via JCL, assigning STDIN and STDOUT to datasets.
3) I plan on using that facility to write Perl glue wrappers that will call functions on other Linux or Solaris boxes, which the MF coders can then call via JCL.
4) Do you know what REXX stands for? Restructured Extended Executor Language That is just plain silly.
On the other hand, I can't even get Perl to compile right now, so we'll see.
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Post #66,427
12/3/02 12:29:54 PM
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do you have the latest MF patches for the nix dataset?
had an issue a few months back with swisscom and ftp, they were short a couple of very recent patches, thanx, bill
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Post #66,745
12/4/02 6:22:43 PM
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Re: I see a flame starting
I once compiled Perl on VMS but I can't remember why it was hard! Something to do with UNIX header files missing in the C setup.
Neat deal using JCL to define in and out - I love it!
-drl
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Post #66,785
12/4/02 9:49:08 PM
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Well that is what JCL is for.
The DOS SNOBOL4+ environment from Catspaw implements something similar: you can assign files to a filehandle id (from 1 to 16) on the command line and just refer directly to the filehandle in your program. Of course, you can open a file by name from within your program if the old method is too clunky. :-)
Wade.
"Ah. One of the difficult questions."
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Post #66,793
12/4/02 10:22:34 PM
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Well no, it's a stretch but it works
Datasets aren't streams. This is a 'frame with record orientation.
JCL - I regret never getting to do much.
-drl
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Post #65,960
12/2/02 12:04:09 AM
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I like the one...
That had the Etch-a-Sketch Perl install... all done... ;)
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Post #65,990
12/2/02 7:36:31 AM
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Knowing the issue is good, but it would help...
If I actually had a copy of said journal. :-(
Cheers, Ben
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