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New That reminds me of a picture that I would love to have...
Cover of one of the Perl Journals.

Remington typewriter. Currently typed up is a failed attempt to install Perl. :-)

Cheers,
Ben
"Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly."
- [link|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html|Walter Mead]
New Close enough
c89 -c -I../Encode -DMAXSIG=38 -DOEMVS -D_OE_SOCKETS -D_XOPEN_SOURCE_EXTENDED -D_ALL_SOURCE -DYYDYNAMIC -W 0,float\\(ieee\\) -DVERSION=\\"1.24\\" -DXS_VERSION=\\"1.24\\" "-I../../.." cp_00_t.c
SEVERE ERROR CBC5002: Virtual storage exceeded.
FSUM3065 The COMPILE step ended with return code 16.
FSUM3017 Could not compile cp_00_t.c. Correct the errors and try again.
FSUM8226 make: Error code 3
FSUM8226 make: Error code 255
FSUM8226 make: Error code 255
New Reminds me of the time...
...when, back in the days when I was a UNIX neophyte, I was trying to install Perl 4 on SunOS 4.1, after I'd nagged the admins at Uni about it for approximately a fortnight. They gave me an account with sufficient disk quota and internet access, and I downloaded the tarball and unpacked it.

There was a configure script of sorts, but it was pretty manual - wanting to know the word size of int, long, double, unsigned int, unsigned long, unsigned double, etc etc.

Ah, them were t'days. This was 1991.

First thing I wrote (after spending a week or so just getting the thing to compile) was the official World's Worst Implementation Of Killall.


Peter
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New The configure script took me 2 hours!
The MF is so damn slow.
And evil.
Perl could not use nm to pull symbols,
so it had to compile a program for each.
And since it was so slow, it was no longer
"interactive". And then it would pause
and ask me a question. 5 minutes later,
I'd realize it was waiting for input.
New ???
Why would you install Perl on a machine with no stdin and stdout?

Doesn't your MF have REXX?

Perl - bah.
-drl
New I see a flame starting
But I'll bite!

1) The crappy slow mainframe actually
has a very good shell environment.
Full job control, pipes, etc, with access
to the "regular" wierd files, plus
Unix style HFS file system.

2) You can run Perl (or any other Unix
process) via JCL, assigning STDIN and
STDOUT to datasets.

3) I plan on using that facility to write
Perl glue wrappers that will call functions
on other Linux or Solaris boxes, which the
MF coders can then call via JCL.

4) Do you know what REXX stands for?
Restructured Extended Executor Language
That is just plain silly.

On the other hand, I can't even get Perl
to compile right now, so we'll see.
New do you have the latest MF patches for the nix dataset?
had an issue a few months back with swisscom and ftp, they were short a couple of very recent patches,
thanx,
bill
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New Re: I see a flame starting
I once compiled Perl on VMS but I can't remember why it was hard! Something to do with UNIX header files missing in the C setup.

Neat deal using JCL to define in and out - I love it!
-drl
New Well that is what JCL is for.
The DOS SNOBOL4+ environment from Catspaw implements something similar: you can assign files to a filehandle id (from 1 to 16) on the command line and just refer directly to the filehandle in your program. Of course, you can open a file by name from within your program if the old method is too clunky. :-)

Wade.

"Ah. One of the difficult questions."

New Well no, it's a stretch but it works
Datasets aren't streams. This is a 'frame with record orientation.

JCL - I regret never getting to do much.
-drl
New I like the one...
That had the Etch-a-Sketch Perl install... all done... ;)

Yours is:
Issue 10, Summer 1998 (Volume 3, Issue 2)

Mine is:
Issue 4, Winter 1996 (Volume 1, Issue 4)

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Use your computer, we'll sample your DNA and imprint your eyes.

SELECT * FROM politicians WHERE iq > 40 OR WHERE ego < 1048575;
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New Knowing the issue is good, but it would help...
If I actually had a copy of said journal. :-(

Cheers,
Ben
"Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly."
- [link|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html|Walter Mead]
     Cute Perl install messages: - (broomberg) - (15)
         That reminds me of a picture that I would love to have... - (ben_tilly) - (11)
             Close enough - (broomberg) - (8)
                 Reminds me of the time... - (pwhysall) - (7)
                     The configure script took me 2 hours! - (broomberg) - (6)
                         ??? - (deSitter) - (5)
                             I see a flame starting - (broomberg) - (4)
                                 do you have the latest MF patches for the nix dataset? - (boxley)
                                 Re: I see a flame starting - (deSitter) - (2)
                                     Well that is what JCL is for. - (static) - (1)
                                         Well no, it's a stretch but it works - (deSitter)
             I like the one... - (folkert) - (1)
                 Knowing the issue is good, but it would help... - (ben_tilly)
         There's lots of amusements in there. - (static)
         Ben: HELP!!!! - (broomberg) - (1)
             Sorry, no help here... - (ben_tilly)

OK, this is why evolution is bunk. You're not smart enough to have evolved from anything.
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