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New Interesting only if you read it......
..and don't take the opinion of a biased spin artist.

Find it here:
[link|http://www.rice.edu/projects/baker/Pubs/workingpapers/cfrbipp_energy/energycfr.pdf|here]

I find nothing in it which deems going to war either a good idea, a recommendation....or even something to be seriously considered.

It talks at great length at how America's energy policy is wasteful
and backward. It points out that it is not in our interests to be dependent
on certain regimes. In the relatively small amount of space which is devoted
to Iraq, it points out that the policy with regards to Iraq has not been
working and it needs to be revised. Contrary to bombing the crap out of Iraq...
it recommends finding a way to increase investment in Iraq if it can be persuaded to be a better world citizen.


But if you want to believe someone else who thinks that this is tantamount to
"invading Iraq is an imperative"...go right ahead.

-Mike
-- The truth is somewhere in between --
New For the record, I did state pwc.
However, thank you for the link to the actual report.

Now...details from the actual report. I note with interest that they blame the power problem is California on the lack of an enery policy. No comment is made to those currently facing criminal charges for wirefraud in the creation of the California energy crisis.

Further, Iraq is specifically mentioned. Although plans, policies and coalitions are mentioned, what is not mentioned is a method to enforce said plans, policies and coalitions. (Hint: there is only one way to enforce them.)

(Emphasis added.)


[...]

Now, the consequences of not having an energy policy that can satisfy our energy requirements on a sustainable basis have revealed themselves in California.

[...]

Over the past year, Iraq has effectively become a swing producer, turning its taps
on and off when it has felt such action was in its strategic interest to do so. (Page 39)

[...]

e. Review policies toward Iraq with the aim to lowering anti-Americanism in the Middle East and elsewhere, and set the groundwork to eventually ease Iraqi oilfield investment restrictions. Iraq remains a destabilizing influence to U.S. allies in the Middle East, as well as to regional and global order, and to the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East. Saddam Hussein has also demonstrated a willingness to threaten to use the oil weapon and to use his own export program to manipulate oil markets. This would display his personal power, enhance his image as a \ufffdPan Arab\ufffd leader supporting the Palestinians against Israel, and pressure others for a lifting of economic sanctions against his regime.

The United States should conduct an immediate policy review toward Iraq, including military, energy, economic, and political/diplomatic assessments. The United States should then develop an integrated strategy with key allies in Europe and Asia and with key countries in the Middle East to restate the goals with respect to Iraqi policy and to restore a cohesive coalition of key allies. Goals should be designed in a realistic fashion, and they should be clearly and consistently stated and defended to revive U.S. credibility on this issue. Actions and policies to promote these goals should endeavor to enhance the well-being of the Iraqi people.

Sanctions that are not effective should be phased out and replaced with highly focused and enforced sanctions that target the regime\ufffds ability to maintain and acquire weapons of mass destruction. A new plan of action should be developed to use diplomatic and other means to support U.N. Security Council efforts to build a strong arms-control regime to stem the flow of arms and controlled substances into Iraq. Policy should rebuild coalition cooperation on this issue, while emphasizing the common interest in security. This issue of arms sales to Iraq should be brought near the top of the agenda for dialogue with China and Russia.

Once an arms-control program is in place, the United States could consider reducing restrictions on oil investments inside Iraq. Like it or not, Iraqi reserves represent a major asset that can quickly add capacity to world oil markets and inject a more competitive tenor to oil trade. However, such a policy will be quite costly as this trade-off will encourage Saddam Hussein to boast of his \ufffdvictory\ufffd against the United States, fuel his ambitions, and potentially strengthen his regime. Once so encouraged and if his access to oil revenues were to be increased by adjustments in oil sanctions, Saddam Hussein could be a greater security threat to U.S. allies in the region if weapons of mass destruction (WMD) sanctions, weapons regimes, and the coalition against him are not strengthened. Still, the maintenance of continued oil sanctions is becoming increasingly difficult to implement. Moreover, Saddam Hussein has many means of gaining revenues, and the sanctions regime helps perpetuate his lock on the country\ufffds economy. (Page 42)
New PWC? (apologies if I misunderstood you)
I'll show my ignorance...what does pwc stand for?

"The United States should conduct an immediate policy review toward Iraq, including military, energy, economic, and political/diplomatic assessments. The United States should then develop an integrated strategy with key allies in Europe and Asia and with key countries in the Middle East to restate the goals with respect to Iraqi policy and to restore a cohesive coalition of key allies."

A new plan of action should be developed to use diplomatic and other means to support U.N. Security Council efforts to build a strong arms-control regime to stem the flow of arms and controlled substances into Iraq.

I don't mind talking about the merits of the report separately......but the article you reference has an *extremely* strained and narrow view of what the report was attempting to say and recommend. In fact ... its just plain bogus....
and counts on the fact that people will be too lazy to go and find and read ~100 pages for themselves.

The report does not state that 'military intervention' is necessary.
Anywhere.
-- The truth is somewhere in between --
New Chuckle....
First: pwc = presented without comment.

Second: you're attempting to create a strawman. The Sunday Herald never claimed that Baker's report suggested 'military intervention' was necessary.
New Oh PUH LEEZE....
"President Bush's Cabinet agreed in April 2001 that 'Iraq remains a destabilising influence to the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East' and because this is an unacceptable risk to the US.....
'military intervention' is necessary.


Oh...of COURSE the article doesn't SAY that the report recommends military intervention. That would be wrong wouldn't it? Would they DO is assemble two
completely unrelated quotes into one sentence to make it appear that way.

The intended message of the article is abundantly clear. That it attempts to portray a VERY misleading message is abundantly clear. The fact that it makes bullshit quotes from the report making it seem legitimate is also true (but apparently less clear). Look at the quotes underlined above. Know where the ONLY place where the phrase "military intervention" is used in the report? ......right here....

Under this scenario.... [Taking The Easy Approach]..., the United States remains a prisoner of its energy dilemma, suffering on a recurring basis from the negative consequences of sporadic energy shortages. These consequences can include recession, social dislocation of the poorest Americans, and at the extremes, a need for military intervention. Moreover, this approach leaves festering the conflict between rising energy demand and its potentially devastating impact on the global environment.

-Mike

Incidentally......one quote from the report which gets left out but seems somehow relevant

Actions and policies to promote these goals should endeavor to enhance the well-being of the Iraqi people. Sanctions that are not effective should be phased out and replaced with highly focused and enforced sanctions that target the regime\ufffds ability to maintain and acquire weapons of mass destruction.


Oh yeah......this is their way of saying "bomb the bastards" ..... right?


-- The truth is somewhere in between --
     Interesting report from James Baker.... -- pwc. - (Simon_Jester) - (6)
         James Baker, now there is EVIL for you. -NT - (mmoffitt)
         Interesting only if you read it...... - (Mike) - (4)
             For the record, I did state pwc. - (Simon_Jester) - (3)
                 PWC? (apologies if I misunderstood you) - (Mike) - (2)
                     Chuckle.... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                         Oh PUH LEEZE.... - (Mike)

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