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New Re: The Future
"fractal notion of objects as servers..."

What does this mean?

I'm working with an idea of documents as servers. You send them messages and they do whatever you want - mail themselves, collect themselves in a particular place, whatever. Each document would have an attached agent. How much of the agent needs to be local is the main problem.
-drl
New Fractal
Basically - the idea is that every object is a tiny server. I think this isn't strictly true for objects that represent values - strings and numbers - but if you read the paper, they take the idea that any object can be messaged anywhere. The fractal bit is that most object methods are written in terms of messaging other objects which are also little servers. Scale it up and you have what amounts to ubiquitous networking.

They start with new assumptions including:

1) The world is filled with fat pipes
2) Graphics power is nearly unlimited

Read the paper. Its quite good - especially the appendix by Alan Kay.
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Expand Edited by tuberculosis Nov. 8, 2002, 10:40:53 AM EST
Expand Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 05:51:44 AM EDT
New Re: Fractal
"I think this isn't strictly true for objects that represent values - strings and numbers.."

Well, why not? They could have NOP servers with a atomic repsonse like "yes, I exist here". One would need an idea of non-existence.

This seems close to my crazy idea of documents with network addresses.

-drl
     The Future - (tuberculosis) - (14)
         Re: The Future - (deSitter) - (2)
             Fractal - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                 Re: Fractal - (deSitter)
         First, an LRPDsm candidate - (Arkadiy) - (6)
             Aha! Beginning to see... - (Arkadiy) - (5)
                 Totally self-contained objects... - (Arkadiy) - (4)
                     Re: Totally self-contained objects... - (jake123) - (2)
                         Re: Totally self-contained objects... - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                             Re: Totally self-contained objects... - (deSitter)
                     Ahead of the curve - (tuberculosis)
         VERY interesting. Can't wait for the 1.0 - (tseliot) - (3)
             ObStupid Name, Unfortunately - (deSitter) - (2)
                 StupidName, perhaps, but meatspace namespace is flat - (tseliot) - (1)
                     Mercury = Messenger - (deSitter)

I agree with everything you said except "lol".
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