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New I have always been against the ADA
Let those who want those who are disabled, enable them. They'll get business.

Let those who could care less about those with disabilities, screw them. They'll lose business. And the hell with them (IMO).

I have a 40-50% hearing loss, not enough for a hearing aid but enough to sometimes make it hard to understand soft-spoken (usually polite) people. I am not seriously disabled (at least I don't think so) but I'll go to a place that has wheelchair access in favor of others.

New Same as my mother's opinion
She's been on crutches since she had polio as a child. If there's someplace she has trouble getting in to, she takes her business someplace else. And, sometimes, sends them a (polite) letter explaining why they aren't getting her business. Sometimes in these letters she points out to them that she is the travel and entertainment writer for a post-polio[1] support group, and that a large part of her review will be how accessible a place is.

The one thing she doesn't do is demand that everyone accommodate her. For instance, we visited Historic Williamsburg a few years ago. None of the buildings had elevators. Many of the staircases were steep, narrow and without handrails. It was truly just like it had been centuries ago, before the ADA was passed. Some members of my mother's group argued that if they couldn't make things wheelchair accessible, they shouldn't receive any tax dollars. They didn't care that making a historically accurate site accessible would have renderd it no longer historically accurate. They didn't care.

There are unfortunately many activists who believe if there is something that they can't take part in, then no one else should be allowed to either.


[1] In the past 10 years or so, it has become apparent that many people who had polio as children but didn't appear to have any long-lasting effects actually did suffer permanent damage. As these people are getting into their 50s and 60s, the point where other physical problems (arthritis, osteoperosis, etc.) start to crop up, they experience profound and rapid degeneration in their extremities. People who "recovered" 40 years ago and have since lead normal lives suddenly find themselves in wheelchairs.
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New OT: 40-50% hearing loss
Is in the range of needing a hearing aid. I've a 30% in one ear and 65% in the other. Termed mild-moderate in left, moderate to severe in right. You'd be surprised at what you are actually missing, and how much your co-workers, friends and family will appreciate NOT having to "yell" when talking to you.

See a hearing specialist...
[link|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com|Joe]
New Re: OT: 40-50% hearing loss
See a hearing specialist...

Oh I have. He's the guy who said it was borderline - but then it may have worsened since then. On the other hand, I live alone (no close family), I can hear and understand friends and coworkers. Now when people start having to bellow at me... well, that would be different.
New My hearing loss
starts at the human vocal range with a sharp drop at the female range. Hear the lower sounds better, but I miss when people speak.

And since my job is holding meetings and telecons, I need to be able to hear, even the "soft spoken" people.

I'd still recommend getting hearing aids with your loss. Yeah, they're hard to wear due to the image problem (only "really old" people wear them), but it's worth it. I've had hearing aids for over 20 years, started wearing them when I was in my 20s.
[link|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com|Joe]
New Re: My hearing loss
What's more perturbing to me is the tinnitus. I understand they've made some remarkable progress since I saw the hearing specialist.
New How long has it been?
I understand they've made some remarkable progress since I saw the hearing specialist.

I recommend another visit. Can't hurt, might help. Good luck.
[link|mailto:jbrabeck@attbi.com|Joe]
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         I have always been against the ADA - (wharris2) - (6)
             Same as my mother's opinion - (drewk)
             OT: 40-50% hearing loss - (jbrabeck) - (4)
                 Re: OT: 40-50% hearing loss - (wharris2) - (3)
                     My hearing loss - (jbrabeck) - (2)
                         Re: My hearing loss - (wharris2) - (1)
                             How long has it been? - (jbrabeck)
         Its about education - (tuberculosis)

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