The only real problems I see with the ABM shield...

Post #5,399 by Simon_Jester 8/16/01 9:35:39 AM Reply	The only real problems I see with the ABM shield... I don't see a ABM system as "stupid" for that very reason. Because it gives the option to stop it in flight. Body armor for cops is a precaution, not an invitation to go charging in like the Terminator. Or those guys who robbed the bank in California. The real problem I see with the ABM system is I'm concerned that people are going to rely on the defense (and act stupid) rather than 'work things out.' Clinton has been criticised for getting the US troops into a number of conflicts. Now, imagine what conflicts Clinton would've been able to get US into if he knew the US was 'protected' from nuclear attack? (Imagine what happens if Hillary does win the Presidency with a 'nuclear shield'?) My only other concern is why we have to don the armor right now. Bush is pushing forward with a full implementation. Cops need body armor because they expect to be shot at.
Post #5,408 by bepatient 8/16/01 10:15:49 AM Reply	My take.... ...is that the Russian government fears it because it devalues their deterrent against the US. They would then need to rely on conventional arms. Massing conventional arms is a) expensive and b)futile due to the US's technology lead. In short....it puts them at risk. I understand their point...given the decades of distrust between our 2 countries. I don't agree with the Bush agenda here. There is no reason to deploy a system at this time. He should have began discussions about modification of all missile treaties...including the ABM treaty prior to announcing any intention to deploy. Should such a system be deployed at some point? Absolutely. As long as ballistic missiles exist, we should be able to defend against them. Remember...the Chinese can aim their missiles now thanks to Mr Clinton. Um...er...well... I have no choice! [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #5,409 by wharris2 8/16/01 10:23:22 AM Reply	Impossible I don't agree with the Bush agenda here. There is no reason to deploy a system at this time. That's not a problem - we can't deploy anything at this time. We've had one moderately successful test (to the limits of what they were testing for), and several failures. We haven't had one full-fledged successful test, and even a successful test would hardly be evidence that the entire system would work. Besides all that, we hardly have the infrastructure set up to deploy even the rudiments of a beginning of a defense. I see no problem with continuing to test and develop, but concerns about deployment are moot at this point. (And even if he gets money in the budget for it, it's still a moot point until we actually get something working.) French Zombies are zapping me with lasers!
Post #5,412 by bepatient 8/16/01 10:32:36 AM Reply	There's that issue, too. I had something in there about that. About continuing to test and while testing modify the treaties to allow deployment when we are ready. I also wonder...if there isn't a real agenda behind all of the current bluster. Its not as if his military advisors are idiots. Um...er...well... I have no choice! [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #5,441 by jb4 8/16/01 1:56:05 PM Reply	Re: My take.... Hey, Be...Nice, succinct, and more'n'likely dead-on accurate. Nice job! jb4 Resistance is not futile...)
Post #5,464 by bepatient 8/16/01 4:20:27 PM Reply	Every once in a while... ...I get inspired (BIG wink ;-) (shhh...I'm blushing)gee...dude...thanks :) Um...er...well... I have no choice! [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #5,594 by jb4 8/17/01 9:37:02 AM Reply	Don't get too used to it...;-) jb4 Resistance is not futile...)
Post #5,607 by bepatient 8/17/01 10:34:12 AM Reply	I was humbled more... ...by who made the comment than by the actual comment itself :-) Trust me...I won't get used to it. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #5,645 by jb4 8/17/01 2:06:09 PM Reply	Credit where credit is due! jb4 Resistance is not futile...)
Post #5,689 by Ashton 8/17/01 5:45:43 PM Reply	I used to be humble until someone pointed out my Greatness. Sometimes One has to be honest about Oneself. :-)

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