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New Battling analogies. Bring it on! :-)
Body armor for cops is a precaution, not an invitation to go charging in like the Terminator.

Let's say you're a gardener in a beautiful sunny Arizona. You've got an occasional problem with varmits in your garden. They eat your morrells. So you think about putting up a fence. Now these varmits are very clever and don't follow the rules of normal varmits. So you want a really good fence. You decide to make it out of stainless steel and make it 8 feet high and bury 8 feet of it below the ground. You think that'll keep out just about any varmit.

Your neighbor says, "Gee that fence isn't such a good idea. It's ugly and all that shiny stainless will reflect the intense sun into my yard and kill my delicate shitake mushrooms that we love so much. Please don't do that. Please find another way to control your varmits."

But you say, "Well, what problem could this fence possibly cause you? It's on my land. It doesn't make any noise. It's not costing you anything. It's unreasonable of you to prevent me from protecting my morrells. Why are you being such a bad neighbor?"

Your neighbor says, "Well, if you insist I'm going to have to do something to protect my shitake mushrooms. I'll have to damage your fence to protect my property. I don't have the money to build a big fence around my property, and I don't want to do so anyway. Your superfence will have to go one way or another!"

Up to this point, you've had tolerable relations with your neighbor. You like trading mushrooms back and forth, even though you don't like his taste in music and think his dog is ugly.

Your choices are:

1) Put up the fence as planned and earn your neighbor's wrath.
2) Do nothing so as not to upset your neighbor, and accept losing some of your morrells.
3) Control the varmits some other way, protect your morrells and preserve peace in the neighborhood.

What should you do?

:-)

Cheers,
Scott.
New Re: Battling analogies. Bring it on! :-)
4) Put up the fence and paint it black so it won't reflect. :)


3) Control the varmits some other way, protect your morrells and preserve peace in the neighborhood

And don't forget, the neighbor also feeds the varmints, and nurses hurt ones back to life, and takes all the ones trapped in the city and releases them in his backyard. :)


The big problem with 3), is so far, the "other way" and "protecting the morrells" (what are morrells?) are "well, lets hope none of the varmints show up". 3) just as theoretical as the ABM system itself right now. *And* its harder to make sure that the *other people* are holding up their end.

Don't forget, before World War II, there were treaties to prevent Germany from building an Army, Air Force, and Navy..... and Japan from building a Navy that could threaten the US........

I'd love to hear _alternatives_.

But I have to admit I'm not very happy with the admittedly small chance that somebody will toss a serious missile this way, and we're unable to prevent it.

So far, I can't agree with your opinion, that its a incredibly dumb idea, based on what you've brought forward. :)

Addison
New Morels! :-)
[link|http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=morels|Morels.]
[link|http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=morellos|Morellos.]

You know your neighbor better than I.

Take your pick.
Alex

Only two things are certain: the universe and human stupidity;
and I'm not certain about the universe.
-- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
New A thousand pardons. :-(
I thought it was morels, but on doing a Google search to be sure I saw about 40 different spellings (various rock bands, etc.). Should have grabbed my MW instead. Oh well... :-)

Cheers,
Scott.
     WashPost OpEd: Why Russians fears missile defense. - (Another Scott) - (49)
         Re: WashPost OpEd: Why Russians fears missile defense. - (addison) - (44)
             So lemme get this straight... - (jb4) - (41)
                 None of the above - (wharris2)
                 I'll attempt to straighten you out... - (addison) - (39)
                     It's not so simple. - (Another Scott) - (30)
                         No, its not. - (addison) - (16)
                             Couple of things. - (Another Scott) - (15)
                                 Re: Couple of things. - (addison) - (14)
                                     Battling analogies. Bring it on! :-) - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                         Re: Battling analogies. Bring it on! :-) - (addison) - (2)
                                             Morels! :-) - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                                                 A thousand pardons. :-( - (Another Scott)
                                     The only real problems I see with the ABM shield... - (Simon_Jester) - (9)
                                         My take.... - (bepatient) - (8)
                                             Impossible - (wharris2) - (1)
                                                 There's that issue, too. - (bepatient)
                                             Re: My take.... - (jb4) - (5)
                                                 Every once in a while... - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                     Don't get too used to it...;-) -NT - (jb4) - (3)
                                                         I was humbled more... - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                             Credit where credit is due! -NT - (jb4)
                                                             I used to be humble - (Ashton)
                         Re: Installing in Alaska will do nothing against a threat... - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                             Alaska was picked because North Korea was viewed ... - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                 Alaska was picked because Sen for life Ted Stevens - (boxley)
                         Scott - catch NPR discussion Mon re Russia version? - (Ashton) - (9)
                             Nope, I missed it. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                 Found it: - (Ashton)
                             Question: how do they propose to do this? - (wharris2) - (6)
                                 Doverai ni proverai.. - (Ashton) - (5)
                                     What is ideal? - (wharris2) - (4)
                                         An excellent solution: ABMs for all. - (Ashton) - (3)
                                             giggling wildly - (wharris2) - (2)
                                                 ..only in your rare moments of relative.... lucidity :-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                     *my* rare moments? -NT - (wharris2)
                     You don't straighten any thing out by adding wrinkles - (jb4) - (7)
                         I didn't. - (addison) - (6)
                             To add a little - (wharris2) - (5)
                                 The imminent threat is not addressed after wasting $BB - (jb4) - (4)
                                     That's merely one possibility. - (addison) - (3)
                                         All of you are missing something - (DonRichards) - (2)
                                             I don't think I'm missing that. - (addison) - (1)
                                                 I don't think I've the patience - (Ashton)
             Good Reason? - (deSitter) - (1)
                 OT: 1990-1991 recession wasn't "deep" - (Another Scott)
         We need a healthy Russian economy - (mhuber) - (3)
             Very well said. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott)
             Precisamente.. and, it is so evidently basic - (Ashton)
             Good points! -NT - (a6l6e6x)

is there more coffee... can I have another cup... you wanna cup I can make some more... I have alot... I mean I have this pot here... but its almost gone and its been sitting there for 10 minutes anyway... I should make more... did I ask if you needed coffee??? do you??? need coffee I mean...
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