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Post #47,206
by tuberculosis
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7/27/02 4:40:10 PM
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New Dumb idea
Yes there is a Java api to Cocoa. But the current implementation is in C++. There is an ObjectiveC++ compiler (compiles a mix of ObjectiveC and C++ code making bridging/wrapping easy). Plus, the Java apis to Cocoa are weak compared to the ObjectiveC ones *and* the JVM imposes a VISIBLE performance penalty in both size and speed.

So why saddle the port with Java at all?

Dumb dumb FUCKING dumb idea.

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Post #47,210
by altmann
7/27/02 4:55:07 PM
7/27/02 5:11:47 PM
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New Actuallly, I agree
I don't see what re-writing what is already a very cross-platform oriented codebase buys anyone except Sun's marketing dept.

And as for my second suggestion, it appears that the OpenOffice.org team is planning on [link|http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/roadmap.html#OO638|doing just that].

This probably also means that the original story I posted is confused and that the Java involved refers to the ability to write plug-ins for the suite in Java. I see alot of people make the assumption that StarOffice is written in Java because it a)contains/uses a JRE for said plugins, b)is slow to start up, and c) comes from Sun.
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Chris Altmann
Expand Edited by altmann July 27, 2002, 05:11:47 PM EDT
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     Sun to push StarOffice for Apple's OS X - (altmann) - (6) - July 26, 2002, 11:53:24 PM EDT
         It would be nice - (orion) - (1) - July 27, 2002, 12:43:13 AM EDT
             Not IBM. - (static) - July 29, 2002, 08:07:12 AM EDT
         Why Java? - (tuberculosis) - (3) - July 27, 2002, 11:28:43 AM EDT
             Re: Why Java. - (altmann) - (2) - July 27, 2002, 04:28:43 PM EDT
                 Dumb idea - (tuberculosis) - (1) - July 27, 2002, 04:40:10 PM EDT
                     Actuallly, I agree - (altmann) - July 27, 2002, 05:11:47 PM EDT

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