I didn't say I wouldn't vote for him. But, I'm realistic.

Post #433,491 by mmoffitt 4/9/20 11:35:39 AM 4/9/20 11:35:39 AM Reply	I didn't say I wouldn't vote for him. But, I'm realistic. I expect no immediate miracles. He's already explicitly said he opposes Medicare for All and while there's no doubt he'll get rid of DeVos, his half century of being embedded with big banks makes me believe there's not going to be a huge difference for our graduated debtors. Still, I'll vote for him because we're in a disaster. We're on the Titanic, it's going down and there's a guy handing out life jackets. You put one on and go in the water. Yeah, you'll slowly freeze to death as your core temp drops, but that's better than drowning immediately inside the sinking ship. My kids, OTOH, are going to be harder to convince. I spoke to them both on the phone yesterday and the Corporate Class would have been proud of me. I told them they had to vote for Biden because of Trump. I don't think I convinced them. The youngest said, "Biden doesn't represent what I believe in and if Trump wins, it's only four more years." I hope that was just the bitter disappointment of Bernie withdrawing talking. I also hope the slightly less than half of Democrats who supported Bernie don't all feel that way, but I think the young'uns just might. They were disillusioned by Hillary and they're disillusioned with the Senator from MBNA. The bankster class (to whom all post-Clinton Democrats are beholden) has really screwed the country over, but the coming generations even more so. I hope that doesn't cost us all in the fall, but I guess we'll see. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,494 by malraux 4/9/20 12:48:54 PM 4/9/20 12:48:54 PM Reply	"Only 4 more years" Wow, that's depressing. We can fall a lot further than we already have in 4 more years. Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #433,497 by Andrew Grygus 4/9/20 1:13:00 PM 4/9/20 1:13:00 PM Reply	Trump has already suggested . . . . . that he should get more than 4 more years. It may take military action to get him out of the White House.
Post #433,525 by mmoffitt 4/10/20 3:23:27 PM 4/10/20 3:23:27 PM Reply	She's still in her 20's. I suppose she figures she has time. And, like her, I recall being a lot less inclined to compromise on my principles when I was in my 20's. America will drive that unwillingness to compromise on one's principles out of anyone, if they want to eat. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,533 by drook 4/10/20 11:58:26 PM 4/10/20 11:58:26 PM Reply	That's not unique to America -- Drew
Post #433,552 by mmoffitt 4/12/20 3:21:17 PM 4/12/20 3:21:17 PM Reply	In how many places have you lived? bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,557 by drook 4/12/20 5:22:07 PM 4/12/20 5:22:07 PM Reply	Fair question I haven't lived in Russia, where they had (have?) gulags for those who tried to maintain their principles. Nor in China where they move a party member into your bed to make sure you toe the line Nor in any of the banana republics where people simply disappear. So what was your point? -- Drew
Post #433,567 by mmoffitt 4/13/20 8:27:37 AM 4/13/20 8:27:37 AM Reply	Your comment claimed knowledge not necessarily at your disposal. Americans love to do that. It's an extension of "We're the Greatest Nation on Earth™." I didn't want to accuse you of that without knowing if you had, in fact, at least some first hand experience living in other places from which to draw upon. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,563 by crazy 4/13/20 6:52:37 AM 4/13/20 6:52:37 AM Reply	Pre or post 25?
Post #433,568 by mmoffitt 4/13/20 8:28:22 AM 4/13/20 8:28:22 AM Reply	Why? bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #434,950 by crazy 6/30/20 6:30:43 PM 6/30/20 6:30:43 PM Reply	Missed this a while ago, sorry Because 25 is brain pruning. 25 is when you're an actual adult.
Post #434,969 by mmoffitt 7/1/20 10:19:55 AM 7/1/20 10:19:55 AM Reply	No worries. Looking back, the reason for your question was obvious. I'm sorry. And post. ;0) bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #434,996 by Ashton 7/2/20 3:36:54 PM 7/2/20 3:36:54 PM Reply	Nevertheless.. Early on, a friend--opining about an involvement with one such age, said, NEVER! 'date a 25(ish?) woman'.. ~~"they are in transition to --> they know not what; emotions want You to believe that --that pillow talk is Who-they-Are. 'Taint-so, McGee'". .... etc. (With later experience(s) I could neither confirm/deny but .. callow-yout ensures that 'the advice' won't be heeded.) And he was right-enough, that I've Recalled the point ... ever since. YMMV
Post #433,501 by Another Scott 4/9/20 2:46:28 PM 4/9/20 2:46:28 PM Reply	Joe isn't the enemy. https://www.congress.gov/bill/99th-congress/senate-bill/2891 S.2891 - Global Climate Protection Act of 1986 99th Congress (1985-1986) BILLHide Overview Sponsor: Sen. Biden, Joseph R., Jr. [D-DE] (Introduced 09/29/1986) It's still early in this cycle. With luck, they'll come around. Cheers, Scott.
Post #433,502 by mmoffitt 4/9/20 3:12:03 PM 4/9/20 3:12:03 PM Reply	No, he's not. He's more like Switzerland. ;0) bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #433,515 by boxley 4/9/20 10:44:45 PM 4/9/20 10:44:45 PM Reply	good argument here “To me, it’s give me a random dog catcher versus Trump, and I’m going to vote for the random dog catcher,” he said. “...But if you say, ‘Get excited’ about a random dog catcher, you don’t know about or has a bad record, no I’m not legally obligated to get excited.” try that one on yer kids https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/492061-cenk-uygur-assumption-progressives-need-to-get-excited-about-biden-is-wrong "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #433,524 by Ashton 4/10/20 2:36:36 PM 4/10/20 2:36:36 PM Reply	tl;dr ... "WIll pick the rabid-one, drooling but not vicious: over ____" FIFY

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