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New Looks to me like . . .
. . that Scotland map is all intercity heavy rail (freight and travelers) not commuter rail.

Here in Los Angeles we have quite a lot of light rail with more planned, some heavy commuter rail and more planned - but even with all planned rail installed only patches of LA/Orange Counties will be covered. This is a combined city of more than 1000 square miles. Most will still have to use a car to get to rail stations, as they do now. It would take LA much more than 200 years to re-organize around rail - if we really wanted to.

Los Angeles also has a LOT of very heavy freight rail, as 1/3 of this entire country's foreign commerce passes through Los Angeles (port of Los Angeles / Long Beach). Rail connects to huge "inland ports" that have been built on the desert, because there isn't nearly enough room in Los Angeles County for warehousing and distribution on that scale. Those railroads aren't shown on the commuter rail map.
Much of that rail has been lowered or raised (at great cost) so it doesn't interfere with surface traffic.

We also have a whole lot of bus service to most of the yellow area on that map (I live in a yellow area) but to use it for any distance will take hours where a car is minutes.

Ecology and conservation enthusiasts always come up with plans that maximize the use of the one resource that is in critically short supply and not at all renewable, for any of us - time, as related to the shortness of life.

Of course, for me, public transport is simply impossible. I need to travel the region a lot, with varying destinations and and with varying loads of tools and equipment, usually much more than can be carried on public transportation.

What we really need is smaller more efficient cars, and for people to adjust to smaller, more efficient cars. Electric cars and hybrids are now very common here in LA County. When Toyota announced they'd sold a million Priuses, I wondered where they'd sold the other 12. You can't drive more than a few miles anywhere around here without seeing Teslas - they swarm here. I even see some of those electric BMWs that look like mineature Pontiac Azteks (what were they thinking?).
New I was disputing population density requirements.
The cited number required for "some level of infrequent bus service" was 3,000 per square mile. I don't know what "infrequent bus service" is, but I wouldn't exactly call this, a non-comprehensive bus schedule," infrequent. The population of Moffat is under 2,500. Moffat is a small rural village, iow. I'm not claiming that rail can replace *all* transportation in this country, only that it is an underutilized form of transportation. As are all forms of mass transit here.

The point is no amount of batteries (look up the carbon footprint of their manufacture), cars (again, carbon footprint) and required roads (like tar? Have some more) is going to help much in the effort to keep this rock a healthy place for humans. I see high speed rail in the medians of our Interstate system as a more responsible, more efficient and far less polluting alternative to air travel and truck freight. I do not see it, nor am I suggesting that it could be, an alternative to automobiles.
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New Oh, for air and freight? Yeah, totally agree.
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Drew
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Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
     Mike M: another example of Boeing's 'Commitment-to-Safety' cha. cha. - (Ashton) - (21)
         But FBW is safer and better. Ask Airbus. - (mmoffitt) - (19)
             Similar vantage. 'AU'/artificial {still-Un} intelligence; we don't know even our own brainz. -NT - (Ashton)
             Re on the driverless cars - (crazy) - (17)
                 I think the sunbelt may deploy it in the next decade to decade and a half. - (mmoffitt) - (16)
                     Re: "automobiles are a particularly wasteful, stupid way to get around" - (a6l6e6x) - (15)
                         Disagree. - (mmoffitt) - (14)
                             You'd have to rebuild society before that could work - (drook) - (7)
                                 Heh. - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                                     Looks to me like . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                                         I was disputing population density requirements. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                             Oh, for air and freight? Yeah, totally agree. -NT - (drook) - (1)
                                                 +1 -NT - (malraux)
                                 Recall those HS 'physics' problems like, drop an egg from a roof.. - (Ashton)
                                 This being Murica you're talking about, wouldn't you have to... - (CRConrad)
                             cant have high speed rail if you have to stop at every exit for pickup and dropoff -NT - (boxley)
                             The last mile is still a thing. - (malraux) - (4)
                                 (Slightly OT) Bus schedules in Long Beach in the late 1970's were great. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                     Bad moi. Empty -NT - (Ashton)
                                     Heh.. whilst starving I rode the Vincent. (Prolly got only ~50 mpg though) F=MA ;^> -NT - (Ashton)
                                     I did a similar thing in DC - (malraux)
         And don't forget to check the firmware version before boarding! - (scoenye)

The mind boggles.
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